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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	"dgutov@yandex.ru" <dgutov@yandex.ru>,
	"stefankangas@gmail.com" <stefankangas@gmail.com>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	"emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: [External] : Re: command mode-specificity [was: scratch/command 064f146 1/2: Change...]
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 22:05:56 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <SA2PR10MB447425B2DC67B57A2DECAAA1F3879@SA2PR10MB4474.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wnv7spji.fsf@gnus.org>

> > Of course I guessed that the "my stats dept"
> > part of Lars's post was cute, a joke.  But I
> > didn't guess that his 97% was also a joke.
> 
> Yes, it was.  But now I've done some mark-ups, so I can actually have
> my stats dept. do some stats...
> 
> In gnus/*.el, there's 1018 interactive commands.  Of those,
> I've tagged 660 interactive commands as being mode-specific.
> 
> In eww, there 44 interactive commands, 34 are marked as being
> mode-specific.  So it's about 50-75%.

Only for two libraries (gnus and eww).  That
doesn't tell us much - a sample of 2.

I still have my hunch - but will gladly be proven
wrong.

I'll gladly be proven wrong, and so know the truth.
But I won't be glad to _be_ wrong about this.  It
doesn't seem right that most commands would - or
should - be mode-specific.

I'd also be interested in knowing what differences
there are, if any, between major and minor modes,
in this regard.
___

FWIW:

I just counted, for Bookmark+ commands: 24.6% of the
total are specific to the bookmark-list buffer, and
so to its mode.  An additional 2 bookmark commands
(out of the 665 total) are also mode-specific, for
Info mode and grep mode, respectively.  All the rest
(>75%) are not specific to any mode - you can use
them in any mode, anywhere.

I won't bother to try counting my other libraries.
My code might not be typical, of course.  But I
still am curious about the general case.  Can you
provide more than a sample of just 2 libraries?

And if you can, do you think that 3rd-party code is
likely, or unlikely, to follow the same pattern (and
why)?




  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-16 22:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-16 19:50 command mode-specificity [was: scratch/command 064f146 1/2: Change...] Drew Adams
2021-02-16 19:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-16 20:23   ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-16 20:53     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 22:05       ` Drew Adams [this message]
2021-02-16 22:15         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 22:31           ` Drew Adams
2021-02-16 22:38             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 23:22               ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17  0:35                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17 15:47                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 15:59                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17 16:15                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-17 16:17                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 19:52                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17 20:21                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 22:05                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17 17:36                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17 18:44                     ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17 17:57                   ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17  2:39           ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-17  3:22       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17  0:13     ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17  0:17       ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17  0:54         ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17 18:11           ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17 18:40             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-17 19:01               ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17 20:09               ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-17 22:31                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17  0:40       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-17  0:59         ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17 11:20         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 14:01           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-17 14:19             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 15:20               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-17 15:42                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 16:12                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-17 18:26                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 18:47                     ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17 18:41                   ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17 18:28                 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17 16:07               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 19:30                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 20:07                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 21:00                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-18 11:33                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-18 14:37                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 15:53                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 13:30                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 14:43                             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-20 14:52                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 18:00                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-21 13:10                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-21 19:57                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-19 12:09                         ` [External] : " Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-19 12:27                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 16:30                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-18 16:55                         ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-18 17:08                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-18 17:20                             ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-18 17:35                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-18 17:55                                 ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-18 18:15                                   ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-19  8:47                                     ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-19  8:55                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 11:21                                         ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-19 12:25                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 18:15                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-18 19:32                                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-18 20:14                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-18 20:24                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 19:42                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 19:57                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-18 20:04                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 12:10                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-19 12:41                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-19 12:57                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-19 13:12                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17 19:02           ` Yuan Fu

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