From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kelly Dean Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: What's Elpa? (I.e. what did you decide the name refers to?) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 06:27:13 +0000 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1420698851 5220 80.91.229.3 (8 Jan 2015 06:34:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 06:34:11 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 08 07:34:06 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y96eF-0002Wu-Vr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 07:32:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44370 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y96eE-0001tk-W1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 01:32:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51140) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y96e4-0001te-BS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 01:32:37 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y96e0-0004wu-SX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 01:32:36 -0500 Original-Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net ([2001:4b98:c:538::196]:39997) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y96e0-0004wo-Md for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2015 01:32:32 -0500 Original-Received: from mfilter38-d.gandi.net (mfilter38-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.169]) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDA8317209C for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 07:32:31 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter38-d.gandi.net Original-Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.196]) by mfilter38-d.gandi.net (mfilter38-d.gandi.net [10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VCYjELybjoux for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 07:32:30 +0100 (CET) X-Originating-IP: 162.248.99.114 Original-Received: from localhost (114-99-248-162-static.reverse.queryfoundry.net [162.248.99.114]) (Authenticated sender: kelly@prtime.org) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7965A17209B for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 07:32:29 +0100 (CET) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4b98:c:538::196 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:181049 Archived-At: In general usage, it now seems to mean a particular repository (the one a= t elpa.gnu.org), with others being Melpa and Marmalade. Unless this is an= other case of my limited reading comprehension abilities. In package.el, an elpa is a repository in general (not a particular one).= E.g. metadata for all repositories (not just from elpa.gnu.org) goes int= o the elpa/archives directory, and the docstrings and comments in package= .el use the name in the general sense. It's much easier to substitute a few words in a source code file than to = change people's habits, so despite the name apparently being general orig= inally, maybe it would be clearer to pick a new name to use in package.el= (and for general usage) for the general sense, and let =E2=80=9FElpa=E2=80= =9D mean the repository at elpa.gnu.org. Or insist that people say =E2=80=9FGNU elpa=E2=80=9D for that one? Then t= here's =E2=80=9FMelpa elpa=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9FMarmalade elpa=E2=80=9D.= Cumbersome. This isn't something that would normally matter, but it can cause misunde= rstanding when people say things like =E2=80=9Fa package in elpa=E2=80=9D= .