From: Chiron <chiron613.no.spam.@no.spam.please.gmail.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs: Problems of the Scratch Buffer
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 16:58:25 GMT [thread overview]
Message-ID: <RGBkr.8865$M37.4661@newsfe01.iad> (raw)
In-Reply-To: icipgtm57r.fsf@home.home
On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 12:15:20 -0400, Dan Espen wrote:
> Chiron <chiron613.no.spam.@no.spam.please.gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 17:10:48 +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>>
>>>> From: Chiron <chiron613.no.spam.@no.spam.please.gmail.com> Date: Sat,
>>>> 21 Apr 2012 12:43:45 GMT
>>>>
>>>> In what way do the maintainers of emacs benefit from having more
>>>> users?
>>>
>>> If you ever maintained a package that others used, you must know that
>>> satisfying your users is a very powerful incentive. Frankly, I'm
>>> surprised to see this question asked at all.
>>
>> Well, I'm just going by the behavior of the current maintainers. They
>> aren't making the changes that people seem to want
>
> You're making that up right?
>
> Every one of the maintainers works on something someone wants. With a
> little reflection on your part, you'll understand why this is a truism.
>
> Xah has a point, users and especially new users stumble on the scratch
> buffer. All Emacs asks is that it's users be smart enough to read the
> little blurb there and ignore the buffer.
>
> But so far, I don't see a lot of people coming up with good alternative
> designs. At least the mention of lisp in the blurb gives new users an
> idea what language they need to use to modify things.
OK, I give up. For some reason, I'm just not making myself clear, and
there are too many people misunderstanding me for it to be their fault.
One or two I could understand, but... As Struther Martin might say,
"what we got heyah is failyuh to communicate."
I can't think of how to properly express my opinion so that it is
understood. Since I'm not particularly attached to this opinion - which
may very well be incorrect to begin with - I won't continue to belabor it.
--
Life is a gamble at terrible odds, if it was a bet you wouldn't take it.
-- Tom Stoppard, "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead"
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Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-04-18 12:00 Emacs: Problems of the Scratch Buffer Xah Lee
2012-04-18 12:31 ` Joe Corneli
2012-04-18 16:57 ` Steinar Bang
2012-04-18 17:33 ` Ludwig, Mark
2012-04-18 18:15 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-04-18 18:16 ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-04-19 21:08 ` Steinar Bang
[not found] ` <mailman.169.1334770417.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-18 21:11 ` Chiron
2012-04-18 23:56 ` Ludwig, Mark
2012-04-19 10:34 ` Tassilo Horn
2012-04-18 17:01 ` Mark Skilbeck
2012-04-18 19:33 ` Aaron Meurer
2012-04-18 20:22 ` Deniz Dogan
2012-04-19 5:55 ` Kevin Rodgers
2012-04-19 5:58 ` Kevin Rodgers
2012-04-19 20:47 ` Bug Dout
2012-04-19 21:11 ` Chiron
2012-04-19 22:41 ` Ludwig, Mark
[not found] ` <mailman.260.1334875302.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-20 3:27 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2012-04-20 3:53 ` Aaron Meurer
2012-04-20 11:08 ` Fritz Wuehler
2012-04-20 11:48 ` Richard Riley
[not found] ` <mailman.304.1334922534.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-21 3:53 ` Chiron
2012-04-21 8:16 ` Joost Kremers
2012-04-21 12:43 ` Chiron
2012-04-21 12:47 ` Jambunathan K
2012-04-21 14:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.373.1335012467.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-21 14:42 ` Chiron
2012-04-21 14:49 ` Joe Corneli
[not found] ` <mailman.381.1335019797.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-21 15:04 ` Chiron
[not found] ` <mailman.379.1335017454.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-21 14:46 ` Chiron
2012-04-21 15:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-04-21 16:15 ` Dan Espen
2012-04-21 16:58 ` Chiron [this message]
[not found] ` <mailman.389.1335022448.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-21 16:32 ` Chiron
2012-04-21 16:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.396.1335027140.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-21 17:09 ` Chiron
2012-04-21 17:36 ` Dan Espen
2012-04-21 23:01 ` Bastien
2012-04-23 11:52 ` Joost Kremers
2012-04-24 7:40 ` rusi
2012-04-24 11:35 ` Richard Riley
2012-04-24 13:44 ` ken
2012-04-25 10:39 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2012-04-25 12:41 ` ken
2012-04-25 21:51 ` Jambunathan K
[not found] ` <mailman.42.1335390728.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-26 17:25 ` rusi
2012-04-26 17:48 ` Bastien
[not found] ` <mailman.619.1335350542.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-26 19:08 ` Xah Lee
2012-04-24 14:33 ` Dan Espen
2012-04-24 18:40 ` PJ Weisberg
2012-04-21 8:36 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2012-04-21 9:48 ` Joe Corneli
[not found] ` <mailman.362.1334997514.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-21 12:35 ` Chiron
2012-04-21 13:31 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2012-04-21 15:01 ` Chiron
2012-04-21 14:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.378.1335017298.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-21 14:52 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2012-04-21 15:15 ` Jambunathan K
2012-04-21 16:03 ` Jambunathan K
2012-04-21 14:59 ` Chiron
2012-04-21 15:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.390.1335022565.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-21 16:47 ` Chiron
2012-04-21 17:07 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
[not found] ` <mailman.398.1335028190.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-21 17:14 ` Chiron
2012-04-21 17:47 ` Juanma Barranquero
[not found] ` <mailman.401.1335030473.751.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-04-21 18:03 ` Chiron
2012-04-21 21:34 ` Jason Earl
2012-04-21 14:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-21 15:03 ` Chiron
2012-04-20 11:31 ` Martin
2012-04-21 3:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-21 3:25 ` Dan Espen
2012-04-21 14:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-04-21 16:08 ` Dan Espen
2012-04-21 16:50 ` Chiron
2012-04-21 17:30 ` Dan Espen
2012-04-21 22:13 ` Ludwig, Mark
2012-04-22 10:00 ` Petter Gustad
2012-04-22 10:27 ` Richard Riley
2012-06-12 19:25 ` Nikolai Alekseev
2012-06-12 19:24 ` Nikolai Alekseev
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