Re: Spaces rather than tabs by a major mode hook

[goncholden <goncholden@protonmail.com>]

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On Sunday, June 12th, 2022 at 9:56 AM, goncholden <goncholden@protonmail.com> wrote:


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> On Sunday, June 12th, 2022 at 9:36 AM, Dmitry Gutov dgutov@yandex.ru wrote:
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> > On 12.06.2022 00:17, goncholden wrote:
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> > > I have tried that. You get encouraged it might work. Until you press return on the end of the line. Then emacs deletes all the tabs.
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> > Aaand you can disable 'electric-indent-mode' to get rid of this behavior.
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> > > Emacs should have a minor-mode or settings that only keep the highlighting for the specific major-mode, and allows the user
> > > to format as one pleases.
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> > The general expectation is that our users's projects adhere to some
> > common rules WRT indentation, with only a few parameters varying between
> > them (which can be customized). When that holds, Emacs's way is way more
> > efficient in practice.
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> That expectation is wrong for legacy code, particularly in fortran.
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> > And when one works on a rare exception, they can tweak their config
> > accordingly. A minor mode could be helpful, I suppose, but the
> > customizations I suggested are fairly easy to do already.
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> They are easy to do but they are not enough. Because at some deep level emacs expectation users's projects to adhere to a sytle. That only works for single person works or multi-person works who actually adhere to a style. In this files, the style they adhere to relate only to naming conventions and that code is uppercase. And obviously, that usual column position rules.

The defeating part is that even if I introduce TABs with

(global-set-key (kbd "TAB") (kbd "C-q TAB"))

or

(local-set-key (kbd "TAB") 'self-insert-command)

and using

(setq tab-always-indent nil)

all tabs get forcefully removed once one hits return at end of line.  I could be that emacs introduces some indentation spaces on the next line but to then remove all tabs on the previous line is excessive.