From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs test suite Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 08:00:04 +0200 (IST) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1042956380 4011 80.91.224.249 (19 Jan 2003 06:06:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 06:06:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18a8b4-00012Z-00 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 07:06:18 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18a8lJ-0004Y1-00 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 07:16:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18a8Zp-0007gq-04 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 01:05:01 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18a8ZW-0007L4-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 01:04:42 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18a8YK-0004yt-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 01:03:28 -0500 Original-Received: from is.elta.co.il ([199.203.121.2]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18a8VW-0003nq-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 01:00:34 -0500 Original-Received: from is (is [199.203.121.2]) by is.elta.co.il (8.9.3/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA07293; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 08:00:04 +0200 (IST) X-Sender: eliz@is Original-To: Robert Anderson In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:10866 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:10866 On Sat, 18 Jan 2003, Robert Anderson wrote: > >We use CVS--isn't that suitable? > > It's reasonable, but has some limitations. For example, I am > potentially interested in maintaining a set of tests, but you are > not convinced of the utility of them and so you'd rather not have > them in your CVS - so you don't give me write access. We have CVS branches for that; a couple of them already exist for specialized features people work on. So I don't see any problem here. > If instead I had a branch that I could store locally (this is the > "distributed" part), I could version control my own work, > continue to incorporate your changes, and as it became more > useful, you could at some point decide that you'd like to merge > my branch into your sources That's cool, but why do you need the branch to be local? Why not start a branch in the Emacs CVS? If you agree not to check in changes into the trunk (assuming we don't want them on the trunk, about which I'm unsure, see below), I don't see any problems granting you write access to the CVS tree. It's Richard's decision, but I don't see why would he refuse. Moreover, I don't even see why would we request that the changes be on a branch. A test suite by definition is mostly orthogonal to the sources being tested. I expect it to be in a separate directory, with only minor influence on the files in other directories (perhaps some simple change in some Makefile.in or so). Therefore, even a branch does not seem to be necessary. Am I missing something?