From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk version getting closer Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 07:50:15 +0200 (IST) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1037201527 23608 80.91.224.249 (13 Nov 2002 15:32:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:32:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jan.h.d@swipnet.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18BzCZ-00047L-00 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:13:11 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18BzOW-00066k-00 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 16:25:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18BUAj-0004Nt-00; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 01:05:13 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 18BTxV-0002Qw-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 00:51:33 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 18BTwQ-0000dZ-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 00:50:30 -0500 Original-Received: from is.elta.co.il ([199.203.121.2]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18BTwO-0000SC-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 00:50:24 -0500 Original-Received: from is (is [199.203.121.2]) by is.elta.co.il (8.9.3/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA15464; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 07:50:15 +0200 (IST) X-Sender: eliz@is Original-To: Karl Eichwalder In-Reply-To: Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:9374 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:9374 On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, Karl Eichwalder wrote: > As somebody else > explained, for menu entries tooltips are not that important, because > menu texts are better to understand than tool bar icons. Where the menu item's text is self-explanatory, there usually is no tooltip that pops up. In other words, tooltips for menu items should be defined only where they are really needed. > I know you can often call a context menu in Emacs, but it's impossible > to jump from a menu entry directly to the manual where this menu entry > will be explained. You should be able to do a "C-h k", then click the menu item and get its explanation. Another C-h function jumps to the manual for a description of any key, but the problem in using this with menu items is that menu items are generally not described at all in the manual. So this is a documentation problem rather than a functionality problem; if someone writes an appendix for the manual with the description of all the menu items, it would be instantly available for the purpose you want it.