file extensions for Openoffice

file extensions for Openoffice

[Francesco Potorti`]

In the following places:

lisp/dos-w32.el:51:    ("\\.\\(arc\\|zip\\|pak\\|lzh\\|zoo\\)$" . t)
lisp/files.el:1434:     ("\\.\\(arc\\|zip\\|lzh\\|zoo\\|jar\\)\\'" . archive-mode)
lisp/gnus/gnus-uu.el:74:    ("\\.\\(tar\\|arj\\|zip\\|zoo\\|arc\\|gz\\|Z\\|lzh\\|ar\\|lha\\)$"
lisp/international/mule.el:1286:  '(("\\.\\(arc\\|zip\\|lzh\\|zoo\\|jar\\|tar\\|tgz\\)\\'" . no-conversion)

the extension .sxi should be added.  It indicates a slide presentation
in Openoffice format, which is the same as a jar format, as far as I can
see.  If anyone knows other Openoffice extensions, they could be added
as well.

file extensions for gettext/msgfmt

[Karl Eichwalder]

Francesco Potorti` <pot@gnu.org> writes:

> If anyone knows other Openoffice extensions, they could be added
> as well.

Not me, but this is good for gettext/msgfmt:

2002-07-05  Karl Eichwalder  <ke@suse.de>

	* bindings.el (completion-ignored-extensions): Add ".gmo" and
	".mo" generated by `msgfmt' (GNU Gettext).


*** bindings.el.~1.100.~	Wed Apr 17 00:21:50 2002
--- bindings.el	Fri Jul  5 17:35:34 2002
***************
*** 443,449 ****
  	 ;; Texinfo-related
  	 ".toc" ".log" ".aux"
  	 ".cp" ".fn" ".ky" ".pg" ".tp" ".vr"
! 	 ".cps" ".fns" ".kys" ".pgs" ".tps" ".vrs")))
  
  ;; Suffixes used for executables.
  (setq exec-suffixes
--- 443,451 ----
  	 ;; Texinfo-related
  	 ".toc" ".log" ".aux"
  	 ".cp" ".fn" ".ky" ".pg" ".tp" ".vr"
! 	 ".cps" ".fns" ".kys" ".pgs" ".tps" ".vrs"
! 	 ;; Gettext (msgfmt)
! 	 ".gmo" ".mo")))
  
  ;; Suffixes used for executables.
  (setq exec-suffixes


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Re: file extensions for gettext/msgfmt

[Eli Zaretskii]

On Fri, 5 Jul 2002, Karl Eichwalder wrote:

> 	* bindings.el (completion-ignored-extensions): Add ".gmo" and
> 	".mo" generated by `msgfmt' (GNU Gettext).

Is that really a good idea?  You are supposed to add extensions to that 
list if no one in their right mind would ever want to do anything at all 
with a file with such an extension.  Files produced by msgfmt are not 
junk, they can be copied, renamed, and even edited if necessary.

Re: file extensions for gettext/msgfmt

[Karl Eichwalder]

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@is.elta.co.il> writes:

> Files produced by msgfmt are not junk, they can be copied, renamed,
> and even edited if necessary.

These files are binary files.  You don't want to edit them; when I view
a directory with po files using dired, I don't want to see the .mo
files.

We should make sure to find a way to add .gmo/.mo files to
`dired-omit-extensions', even if we don't want to add them to
`completion-ignored-extensions'.

Concerning copying and renaming: That's valid for other files, too
(.dvi, .pdf, .log, .aux, .elc).

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Re: file extensions for gettext/msgfmt

[Eli Zaretskii]

On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Karl Eichwalder wrote:

> > Files produced by msgfmt are not junk, they can be copied, renamed,
> > and even edited if necessary.
> 
> These files are binary files.

IMHO, being binary files is not a reason good enough to be added to that 
list.

> You don't want to edit them

That's for the user to decide; there's "M-x hexl-find-file".

> when I view
> a directory with po files using dired, I don't want to see the .mo
> files.

Then you can add them as your local customizations.

> Concerning copying and renaming: That's valid for other files, too
> (.dvi, .pdf, .log, .aux, .elc).

No.

Re: file extensions for gettext/msgfmt

[Andreas Schwab]

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@is.elta.co.il> writes:

|> On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Karl Eichwalder wrote:
|> 
|> > > Files produced by msgfmt are not junk, they can be copied, renamed,
|> > > and even edited if necessary.
|> > 
|> > These files are binary files.
|> 
|> IMHO, being binary files is not a reason good enough to be added to that 
|> list.
|> 
|> > You don't want to edit them
|> 
|> That's for the user to decide; there's "M-x hexl-find-file".

Then why is ".o" part of the standard value of
completion-ignored-extensions?

Andreas.

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Re: file extensions for gettext/msgfmt

[Karl Eichwalder]

Miles Bader <miles@lsi.nec.co.jp> writes:

> I think it's a judgement call that should be made by someone
> experienced with that sort of file (who that is, I don't know).

That's probably me :)

> `hexl-find-file' is a special case, and probably ought to override
> completion-ignored-extensions if it can, because it's typically used for
> editing files you normally don't want to edit.

Good idea.

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Re: file extensions for gettext/msgfmt

[Miles Bader]

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@is.elta.co.il> writes:
> > These files are binary files.
> 
> IMHO, being binary files is not a reason good enough to be added to that 
> list.

It's sometimes desirable to edit binary files, but it's certainly
annoying to have them interfere with completion.  I think it's a
judgement call that should be made by someone experienced with that sort
of file (who that is, I don't know).

> > You don't want to edit them
> 
> That's for the user to decide; there's "M-x hexl-find-file".

But emacs ought to provide good defaults.

`hexl-find-file' is a special case, and probably ought to override
completion-ignored-extensions if it can, because it's typically used for
editing files you normally don't want to edit.

-Miles
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Re: file extensions for gettext/msgfmt

[Richard Stallman]

    `hexl-find-file' is a special case, and probably ought to override
    completion-ignored-extensions if it can, because it's typically used for
    editing files you normally don't want to edit.

That is a good idea.  It certainly can override the list
by binding the variable inside the (interactive...) spec.

Re: file extensions for gettext/msgfmt

[Miles Bader]

> `hexl-find-file' is a special case, and probably ought to override
> completion-ignored-extensions

Ok, I did it.

_miles
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Re: file extensions for gettext/msgfmt

[Richard Stallman]

    IMHO, being binary files is not a reason good enough to be added to that 
    list.

That is precisely the reason most of them are in the list--because
Most of the time, people don't want to edit binary files.  This is a
convenience feature to help you get the source file and just the
source file.

When you want to edit the binary file, that is not hard.  You just
type the last part of the name by hand.

Re: file extensions for gettext/msgfmt

[Stefan Monnier]

> > 	* bindings.el (completion-ignored-extensions): Add ".gmo" and
> > 	".mo" generated by `msgfmt' (GNU Gettext).
> Is that really a good idea?

I think so.

> You are supposed to add extensions to that
> list if no one in their right mind would ever want to do anything at all
> with a file with such an extension.

That's not my understanding.  This list only indicates extensions of
files that are usually not edited and only instructs Emacs' completion
mechanism to prefer other file names when you hit TAB.

Basically, it just changes `try-completion' on files to do

   (or (try-completion <file> <files> 'not-in-completion-ignored-extensions)
       (try-completion <file> <files>))

> Files produced by msgfmt are not
> junk, they can be copied, renamed, and even edited if necessary.

Sure, I don't see the relevance of this remark.
Maybe `completion-ignored-extensions' should simply not always be used
(as someone remarked it should probably be ignored for `hexl-find-file').


	Stefan

Re: file extensions for Openoffice

[Pavel Janík]

   From: Francesco Potorti` <pot@gnu.org>
   Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2002 12:20:08 +0200

   > If anyone knows other Openoffice extensions, they could be added
   > as well.

Here they are:

Draw.sxd
Formula.sxm
Presentation.sxi
Spreadsheet.sxc
Text document.sxw
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Re: file extensions for Openoffice

[Richard Stallman]

    the extension .sxi should be added.

Could you please do that?

Re: file extensions for Openoffice

[Francesco Potorti`]

       the extension .sxi should be added.
   
   Could you please do that?

Done, together with the other openoffice extensions that have been
suggested.