From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Enhancements to options menu (was Re: Reveal mode) Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 07:48:28 +0300 (IDT) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <5xu1pmkzcb.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1020665576 10240 127.0.0.1 (6 May 2002 06:12:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 06:12:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, Pavel@Janik.cz, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 174bk0-0002f3-00 for ; Mon, 06 May 2002 08:12:56 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 174br1-0005f9-00 for ; Mon, 06 May 2002 08:20:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 174bC0-0005KQ-00; Mon, 06 May 2002 01:37:48 -0400 Original-Received: from is.elta.co.il ([199.203.121.2]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 174aS9-0001hN-00; Mon, 06 May 2002 00:50:25 -0400 Original-Received: from is (is [199.203.121.2]) by is.elta.co.il (8.9.3/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA29456; Mon, 6 May 2002 07:48:28 +0300 (IDT) X-Sender: eliz@is Original-To: storm@cua.dk In-Reply-To: <5xu1pmkzcb.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:3619 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:3619 On 6 May 2002 storm@cua.dk wrote: > I want a "novice" level of customization where a new emacs user can > quickly get an overview of the various features offered by emacs - > preferably just with one option per package ... and preferably > not more complex than it can be shown in a single 24x80 window. I think you are talking about two different features. One is what _I_ call a ``novice'' customization level: a command that lets the user customize a relatively short list of the most popular options. If the decision is that we don't want to put them on menu-bar's Options, then some variety of Customize is the logical alternative. The other feature is some way of getting a summary of the optional features and being able to browse them. That sounds a lot like top-level Customize groups, perhaps flattened to some extent, doesn't it? The one option per package goal seems an impossible one--just pick up any Emacs package and try to decide what would be that single option you will show. I'm unable to do that, FWIW: too many are useful.