From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Insert Euro symbol Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 19:06:47 +0300 (IDT) Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1020355765 19600 127.0.0.1 (2 May 2002 16:09:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 16:09:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 173J92-000561-00 for ; Thu, 02 May 2002 18:09:24 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 173JEK-0006Ni-00 for ; Thu, 02 May 2002 18:14:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 173J8l-0007Lp-00; Thu, 02 May 2002 12:09:07 -0400 Original-Received: from is.elta.co.il ([199.203.121.2]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 173J8J-0007KO-00 for ; Thu, 02 May 2002 12:08:40 -0400 Original-Received: from is (is [199.203.121.2]) by is.elta.co.il (8.9.3/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA29401; Thu, 2 May 2002 19:06:47 +0300 (IDT) X-Sender: eliz@is Original-To: Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?= In-Reply-To: Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:3508 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:3508 On Thu, 2 May 2002, Kai =3D?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=3DDFjohann?=3D wrote: > Emacs by default provides the very convenient C-x 8 series of > keybindings. For me, personally, it is in some cases preferable to > using input methods: I use german-prefix as an input method and have > gotten used to ' being a regular self-inserting key, so switching to > latin-1-prefix won't make me happy. Nevertheless, I sometimes want > to write =E9 or =E0 or the like. For this, C-x 8 is convenient. Why not augment the existing input methods to do what you find convenient= =20 in C-x 8, or make a new input method, if augmenting existing ones is=20 impractical? I don't think we should extend C-x 8, since it's a legacy ``input=20 method'' which predates Leim. We now have Leim and the native input=20 methods provided by the various keyboards/windowing systems (like XIM,=20 for example). It doesn't sound like a good idea to have yet another, 3rd= =20 way of producing non-ASCII characters. C-x 8 should be supported for=20 back compatibility, but do we really want to extend it? > Do you think that there should be a keybinding of some sort to insert > the Euro character? (A keybinding that is not in an input method.) I think it should be possible to insert the Euro with an input method. =20 People who don't use input methods can use the keystrokes their keyboard=20 supports for that. > When Emacs uses Unicode internally, the distinction > will be irrelevant I guess. That would be an argument in favor of > C-x 8.) You mean, you'll want C-x 8 to be able to insert any Unicode character? =20 Or just some of them? If the latter, which ones? > Do you think a C-x 9 series of bindings, paralleling C-x 8 but in > Latin-9 instead of Latin-1, would be useful? If you agree that C-x 8 is deprecated, C-x 9 is a step in the wrong=20 direction. > (What about the poor Latin-2 folks, though?) Why, C-x 10, of course ;-)