From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jonathon Isaac Swiderski Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Software/HD ecology Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 01:22:44 -0500 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <041220020952400758%ajanta@no.spam> <84bs3xsyi8.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> <071220021155280606%ajanta@no.spam> <5ld6obj8il.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> <101220021125583826%ajanta@no.spam> <111220021253524057%ajanta@no.spam> <5l65u0i8zj.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> <84k7ifo3s2.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> <121220021324043990%ajanta@no.spam> <84pts1nfs5.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> <843cowcyxs.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1040193769 8676 80.91.224.249 (18 Dec 2002 06:42:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 06:42:49 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18OXup-0002Fm-00 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 07:42:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18OXsu-0002Eg-04 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 01:40:48 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsxfer.eecs.umich.edu!news.itd.umich.edu!asteroids.gpcc.itd.umich.edu!jonswid Original-Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.text.tex,gnu.emacs.help X-X-Sender: jonswid@asteroids.gpcc.itd.umich.edu In-Reply-To: <843cowcyxs.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> Original-Lines: 42 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.211.2.218 Original-X-Trace: news.itd.umich.edu 1040192566 141.211.2.218 (Wed, 18 Dec 2002 01:22:46 EST) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 01:22:46 EST Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu comp.sys.mac.apps:349186 gnu.emacs.help:108245 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:4774 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:4774 On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Kai Gro=DFjohann wrote: > Alas, the Unix crowd appears to follow the Perl > philosophy `There is more than one way to do it', and hence, different > Unices have different ways. You've your history backwards--- UNIX predates Perl by better than ten years. Much of the duplication of functionality in UNIX comes from the SysV/Berkeley split. Pretty much any introductory UNIX text can explain what this means; try ORA's "Unix in a Nutshell" for one. "Essential System Administration", also from O'Reilly, has the most comprehensive I've yet seen anywhere. (both in unix.ora.com somewhere) > FreeBSD has pkg_add and friends. Solaris also has something named > pkgfoo, for some value of foo. foo=3Dadd (Solaris' package installer is called pkgadd.) > MacOS has fink, amongst others. Since MacOS is based on FreeBSD (or is > it NetBSD or OpenBSD) in some way, maybe MacOS also uses pkg_add and > friends? (assuming that by 'MacOS' you mean 'OS X' . . .) Fink is a system that ports and packages programs for installation to OS X; Debian tools (dpkg; apt) are used for installation: fink.sf.net: "We modify Unix software so that it compiles and runs on Mac OS X ("port" it) and make it available for download as a coherent distribution." OS X's Unix subsystem is based on FreeBSD: developer.apple.com: "Darwin is the core of Mac OS X. The Darwin kernel is based on FreeBSD and Mach 3.0 technologies and provides protected memory and pre-emptive multitasking." While I don't have the patience to wade through Apple's site, the GNU-Darwin distribution uses pkg_add. (So that'd be a "yes" to your last question.) --=20 Jonathon Isaac Swiderski \\ dangercat-20@dangercat.net cs.oberlin.edu/~jswiders \\ www.dangercat.net/resume For every problem there is one solution which is simple, neat, and wrong. -- H. L. Mencken