From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: gebser@speakeasy.net Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: mail authentication (was Re: mail: Sending...failed with exit value 71) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 21:23:43 -0500 (EST) Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: Reply-To: gebser@speakeasy.net NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1071368730 23379 80.91.224.253 (14 Dec 2003 02:25:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 02:25:30 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 14 03:25:27 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AVLwk-0006Pq-00 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 03:25:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AVMth-0001v3-6P for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 22:26:21 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AVMtC-0001i2-3O for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 22:25:50 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AVMsa-0000Pd-SN for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 22:25:45 -0500 Original-Received: from [216.254.0.201] (helo=mail1.speakeasy.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.24) id 1AVMsa-0000LU-7N for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Dec 2003 22:25:12 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 11931 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2003 02:23:44 -0000 Original-Received: from dsl093-011-017.cle1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO heidegger.mousecar.net) ([66.93.11.17]) (envelope-sender ) by mail1.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 14 Dec 2003 02:23:44 -0000 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:15233 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:15233 At 19:42 (UTC-0000) on Tue, 9 Dec 2003 Glenn Morris said: = gebser@speakeasy.net wrote: = = ... = = New guess: you have got a not-part-of-Emacs package called smtp.el = installed somewhere in your load path, and it is screwing things up. = ... Glenn, You're a genius. With all the paths to emacs, I didn't notice that I'd installed flim in one of them; this was where the funky variables were coming from and almost certainly where the bugs were being bred. I tar/gzip'd the whole package up, deleted the files, rebooted emacs, and viola-- it's working now (almost...). You're a genius. New problem: Yes, emacs' mail is now working... to a degree. I can send mail with it to myself, but only within the local machine. If I try to send via my ISP, I get nothing. That is to say, I know that emacs is connecting to the ISP and handing off the email, but it never gets delivered back to me. I suspect that the ISP is simply tossing it out due to lack of authentication from me. I found a couple functions alleged to remedy that: ;; Authenticate using this username and password against my server. (setq smtpmail-auth-credentials '(("hostname" "port" "username" "password"))) ;; Use STARTTLS without authentication against the server. (setq smtpmail-starttls-credentials '(("hostname" "port" nil nil))) I don't know whether to fill in my hostname or that of my ISP, or the one in one function and the other in the second function. Also, I use a couple different email addresses (usernames and passwords) on the same ISP-- how would I handle that in (setq smtpmail-auth-credentials ...)? Has anyone set this up before? Tips much appreciated. (Glenn, thanks again.) tia, ken