From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ken Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: (Newbie) How to turn AutoFill-mode on/off Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 09:06:03 -0500 (EST) Sender: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <3PQD9.121756$QZ.20321@sccrnsc02> <87n0nzpvqy.fsf@wesley.springies.com> Reply-To: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1038146768 14887 80.91.224.249 (24 Nov 2002 14:06:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 14:06:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18FxOh-0003ry-00 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 2002 15:06:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18FxPt-0008O0-00; Sun, 24 Nov 2002 09:07:21 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 18FxOo-0007yV-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Nov 2002 09:06:14 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 18FxOl-0007y2-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Nov 2002 09:06:13 -0500 Original-Received: from adsl-65-43-208-143.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net ([65.43.208.143] helo=heidegger.mousecar.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18FxOk-0007xQ-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Nov 2002 09:06:11 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (ken@localhost) by heidegger.mousecar.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAOE68914593; Sun, 24 Nov 2002 09:06:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: heidegger.mousecar.net: ken owned process doing -bs Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help X-X-Sender: Original-To: Alan Shutko In-Reply-To: <87n0nzpvqy.fsf@wesley.springies.com> Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:3914 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:3914 Alan, You bring up a good point. Adding, deleting, editing, and renumbering footnotes is not at all something which should be done when you're trying to put your thoughts "on paper" (Wow! Archaic in a fraction of a lifetime). While composing the manuscript, you don't want to deal with the trivialities of footnotes. First and foremost is the writing. Until the text of the manuscript is completed, footnotes would be a distraction. The method I use when composing is to leave the reference in the body of the text, e.g.: ... and that, according to Heidegger, "every metaphysical thought is ontological or it is nothing at all."(Holzwege, p. 206) The invented tags ... mark off a simplified note but one which is sufficient when composing the document and which make a search or search-and-replace easy. After the composing and proofreading and rewriting is finished, then begins the task of visual formatting, including creating the footnotes or-- what I prefer-- endnotes. This is the way I would go regardless of which text formatter was adopted. If I didn't already have so many projects on my agenda, I'd consider elisp code which would pull out the "..." tags, grab the corresponding full citation from another, bibliographic file, and create from these footnotes and/or endnotes for an html doc. Just my $0.02, ken -- AMD crashes? See http://cleveland.lug.net/~ken/amd-problem/. Alan Shutko at 02:07 (UTC-0000) on Sun, 24 Nov 2002 said: = ken writes: = = > If the kind of document your writing is no more typographially complex = > than, say, a master's thesis, then I would suggest using HTML. It'll do = > superscripts and subscripts (e.g., for footnotes), italics, bold, = > various and variable-sized fonts, tables, and a lot more and quite a bit = > more easily than LaTeX. = = If you're doing anything with footnotes, or anything you want to = number, you do not want to be writing superscripts and subscripts by = hand. Or section or figure numbers, etc. Unless you happen to like = renumbering everything when you change something. = = You'd end up doing it with a word processor which would autogenerate = all that and output HTML. = = For that kind of thing, it would be about as easy to learn LaTeX, and = you'd spend a whole lot less time doing things manually. = =