From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ken Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: (Newbie) How to turn AutoFill-mode on/off Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 19:53:38 -0500 (EST) Sender: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <3PQD9.121756$QZ.20321@sccrnsc02> Reply-To: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1038099255 31697 80.91.224.249 (24 Nov 2002 00:54:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 00:54:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18Fl2M-0008F6-00 for ; Sun, 24 Nov 2002 01:54:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18Fl2P-0000ab-00; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 19:54:17 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 18Fl22-0000Yd-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 19:53:54 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 18Fl20-0000Y2-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 19:53:53 -0500 Original-Received: from adsl-65-43-210-95.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net ([65.43.210.95] helo=heidegger.mousecar.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18Fl1z-0000XU-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 19:53:51 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (ken@localhost) by heidegger.mousecar.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAO0rhl06990; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 19:53:44 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: heidegger.mousecar.net: ken owned process doing -bs Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help X-X-Sender: Original-To: Elaine Sims In-Reply-To: <3PQD9.121756$QZ.20321@sccrnsc02> Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:3898 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:3898 Elaine (and other emacsers in the writing business), I was a writer for awhile and a copyeditor as well. What you need to format documents depends on what kind of writing you will be doing, who you will be submitting it to, and what format they want. E.g., if your doing technical writing for a company and they want hardcopy without having you send out your manuscripts to a typesetter/printer, then I would agree with Michael. LaTeX will give you all you want in terms of typesetting. However, if you don't need all of that, if you don't need to include formulas and if your publisher is going to be producing the published hardcopy, then LaTeX is probably overkill; you'll be spending too much time learning it and a lot less time actually writing. If the kind of document your writing is no more typographially complex than, say, a master's thesis, then I would suggest using HTML. It'll do superscripts and subscripts (e.g., for footnotes), italics, bold, various and variable-sized fonts, tables, and a lot more and quite a bit more easily than LaTeX. You can also include diagrams, photos, and other images into html docs. If I were doing my master's thesis today, it's what I'd use. The only thing I could never figure out how to do in html was page breaks. Maybe they've added a tag for that in the past five or so years. Finally, most word processors will read in html, so if there's some reason that, in the end, you *absolutely* *must* make another change, just about any ole wordprocessor will handle it. Oh, and emacs has an html-helper-mode to make the work go even faster. hth, ken Elaine Sims at 19:38 (UTC-0000) on Sat, 23 Nov 2002 said: = Michael Slass wrote: = = > = >Elaine Sims writes: = > ... = >It will be easier to give you a good answer with a more specific = >notion of your target. Tell us what your ultimate goal is, and what's = >wrong with what emacs is doing for you now, (ie - what are you doing = >with the doc that makes you not like the line breaking?) and you're = >likely to get a good answer. = > = >-- = >Mike Slass = = I'm a writer. And I have just started learning Xemacs and have = found that it's editing capabilities are superior to any = wordprocessor I've ever used. (like C-x-t, C-x-e, C-t, etc,etc). = = But the problem is: typing in text-mode and seeing the little arrow = at the end of the line and the breaks mid-word is a distraction. = I'm much more comfortable looking at the screen in auto-fill mode. = = But then if I open the text in a word processor (AbiWord, Word) it = retains the line breaks, which I have to manually delete to reform = the paragraphs. If I have to do that to a 100,000 word manuscript = I'll go crazy. = = Actually the only reason I'm opening the file at all in a word = processor is because I haven't learned how to format and print out = my manuscripts from Xemacs (with double spacing and headers and page = numbers) yet. = = If I could do it all from within Xemacs that would be preferrable. = = And I'm not adverse to learning a little LISP to do it. = = Any help I can get would be appreciated. = = Thanks. = = Elaine = = _______________________________________________ = Help-gnu-emacs mailing list = Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org = http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs = -- AMD crashes? See http://cleveland.lug.net/~ken/amd-problem/.