From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Last steps for pretesting Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:50:11 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: References: <87zmiforfc.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1145573141 23194 80.91.229.2 (20 Apr 2006 22:45:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:45:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Richard Stallman , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 21 00:45:38 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWhtr-0000xR-OE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:45:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWhtr-00017d-1d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 18:45:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FWhtd-000169-NU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 18:45:09 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FWhtc-00015v-T1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 18:45:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FWhtc-00015r-QB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 18:45:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [193.149.49.134] (helo=acm.acm) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FWhuw-0004O6-IP; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 18:46:31 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by acm.acm (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA00865; Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:50:12 GMT X-Sender: root@acm.acm Original-To: Stefan Monnier In-Reply-To: <87zmiforfc.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:53167 Archived-At: On Thu, 20 Apr 2006, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>>> Uh, but the truification has to happen when loading, anyway. >>> No, AFAIK "truification" doesn't currently happen at load time. >> I would consider it surprising if Emacs was able to load files without >> finding out where they are. >I'd be surprised if you didn't know that if "/foo" is a symlink to "/bar", >Emacs doesn't need to know it in order to load "/foo/toto/titi.elc", i.e. it >doesn't need to first convert it to "/bar/toto/titi.elc". >There must some kind of of misunderstanding. Emacs DOES need to know, every time it evaluates an eval-after-load. For example, if this form is evaluated: (eval-after-load "/mnt/hda7/emacs/lisp/cc-fonts.elc" '(...)) and load-history has as one of its elements ("/home/acm/emacs/emacs/lisp/cc-fonts.elc" ....), ; a symlink then each stored file name must be truified at _every_ eval-after-load. -- Alan.