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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Last steps for pretesting (font-lock-extend-region-function)
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 18:12:52 +0000 (GMT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1060420180535.271B-100000@acm.acm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k69kqh7o.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

Hi, Stefan!

On Thu, 20 Apr 2006, Stefan Monnier wrote:

>>> BTW, I still intend to move font-lock-extend-region-function from
>>> after-change-functions to font-lock-fontify-region (or maybe even
>>> jit-lock-fontify).

>> That would radically change the meaning of the function.

>Of course.

>> How about the following compromise?  font-lock-extend-region-function
>> should get called BOTH in the two after-change functions AND in
>> jit-lock-fontify-now and font-lock-default-fontify-region.

>No, my problem is specifically with calling it from
>after-change-functions.

You mean in calling it ONLY from a-c-f?  Or from calling it in
after-change-functions at all?

>>> So if you really manage to use the current
>>> font-lock-extend-region-function (called from after-change-functions)
>>> in a way that's robust, efficient, .....

>> So far, yes (except, perhaps, for the need of an extend-region
>> function in j-l-f-n and f-l-d-f-r).

>So your code needs extend-region both in a-c-f and in f-l-d-f-r ?

Yes.  The region needs extending in two distinct circumstances:
(i) In after-change, to determine the entire region which needs
  refontifying;
(ii) In jit-lock-fontify-now, to ensure that each chunk starts and stops
  at a "safe place".
These are logically disjoint.  But it seems that the major mode code to
do each of them is so similar, that we might as well just have a single
function, font-lock-extend-region-function, called in two different ways.

>>> .... and can't be done as efficiently/elegantly/robustly with a hook
>>> in font-lock-fontify-region (or with the font-lock-multiline
>>> property), please scream.

>> AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

>> I don't think we're going to agree on the relative elegance of
>> font-lock-extend-region-function vs. font-lock-multiline.  I think
>> that the former is more elegant than the latter, and you think the
>> latter is the more elegant.

>Of course, we don't have to agree on every detail.

:-)

>> I'm convinced that either approach would be robust (hey, we're competent
>> hackers ;-).

>I'm convinced that only using a-c-f would *not* be robust, no matter how
>competent the hacker.

I agree with you here.

>> However, I think that f-l-extend-region-function can be done more
>> efficiently by the major mode maintainer, in the sense that it will
>> require less time and effort reading manuals, reading fine source, and
>> coding.

>more efficiently than what?

More efficiently than setting font-lock-multiline text properties.

>        Stefan

-- 
Alan.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-04-20 18:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-17  0:56 Last steps for pretesting Richard Stallman
2006-04-17  8:01 ` Ramprasad B
2006-04-17  8:37   ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-18  1:42   ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-19  3:54     ` Ramprasad B
2006-04-19 15:40       ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-20  5:23         ` Ramprasad B
2006-04-18 17:31 ` Bill Wohler
2006-04-19 17:02 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-04-19 21:23   ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-19 21:30     ` David Kastrup
2006-04-20 21:35       ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-20 21:37         ` David Kastrup
2006-04-20 21:44           ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-20 21:46             ` David Kastrup
2006-04-20 22:50             ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-04-19 22:43     ` Last steps for pretesting (font-lock-extend-region-function) Alan Mackenzie
2006-04-20  9:13       ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-04-20 17:46       ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-20 18:12         ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2006-04-20 20:58           ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-20 22:40             ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-04-20 23:34               ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-21  7:58                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-04-21 12:18                   ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-21 19:51                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-04-21 22:28                       ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-24 19:28                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-04-24 21:06                           ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-25  6:21                             ` Ralf Angeli
2006-04-25 10:53                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-04-25 18:37                                 ` Ralf Angeli
2006-04-25 22:00                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-04-26  6:14                                     ` Ralf Angeli
2006-04-25 19:26                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-25 20:10                                 ` font-lock-multiline for cc-awk Stefan Monnier
2006-04-26  7:37                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-04-26 13:55                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-25 19:23                               ` Last steps for pretesting (font-lock-extend-region-function) Stefan Monnier
2006-04-25 20:18                               ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-25 11:33                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-04-25 11:59                               ` David Kastrup
2006-04-25 12:33                               ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-25 14:07                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-04-25 16:05                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-25 16:09                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-25 21:52                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-04-25 21:49                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-04-26  4:50                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-24 21:20                           ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-25  7:45                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-04-25 12:12                               ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-25 21:15                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-04-26  4:33                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-26  8:30                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-04-26 13:36                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-24 21:33                           ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-25  7:27                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-04-25 12:03                               ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-25 13:14                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-04-26  0:22                                   ` Miles Bader
2006-04-25  4:39                           ` Tomas Zerolo
2006-04-25 19:02                           ` Ralf Angeli
2006-04-25 19:30                             ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-25 20:12                               ` Ralf Angeli
2006-04-25 20:26                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-25 20:58                                   ` Ralf Angeli
2006-04-25 21:11                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-25 22:30                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-04-26  4:25                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-26  7:44                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-04-25 22:16                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2006-04-26  4:36                               ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-21 23:14                       ` Drew Adams
2006-04-19 22:53     ` Last steps for pretesting (true file names in load-history?) Alan Mackenzie
2006-04-20  1:14   ` Last steps for pretesting Richard Stallman
2006-04-24 17:52   ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-20 10:54 ` Reiner Steib
2006-04-21  0:10   ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-21  5:46     ` David Kastrup

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