From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Documentation for "Clone Buffers" (corrected version) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 11:29:45 +0000 (GMT) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1079177604 31054 80.91.224.253 (13 Mar 2004 11:33:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 11:33:24 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 13 12:33:13 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1B27OD-0002Vd-00 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2004 12:33:13 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1B27OD-00042N-00 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2004 12:33:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B1Z0G-0006nA-Gb for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 17:50:12 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1B12LK-0006S8-89 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 06:57:46 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1B12Kk-0006My-VD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 06:57:42 -0500 Original-Received: from [193.149.49.134] (helo=acm.acm) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B12Kj-0006ML-JW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 06:57:10 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by acm.acm (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA00550 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 11:29:47 GMT X-Sender: root@acm.acm Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:20382 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:20382 On 9 Mar 2004, David Kastrup wrote: Alan Mackenzie writes: >> [Re: My proposed patch to the Emacs manual, documenting the command >> `clone-buffer'.] >> On Sat, 28 Feb 2004, Richard Stallman wrote: >> [Alan Mackenzie:] >> > I disagree. I find clone-buffer exceptionally useful, as it is >> > the only way I know of having two *info* buffers displaying >> > different info files at the same time. >> >The recommended method is to create one, do M-x rename-uniquely, then >> >switch to some other buffer and do M-x info again. This works for >> >all sorts of special facilities. >> Ah, right! :-) That's anything but user-friendly, though. It's also >> difficult to work out from the documentation. I couldn't find any >> hint of this procedure in the Info info pages, which is the first >> place I looked, a year or three ago. >Is the prefix argument of the following more user-friendly? >m runs the command Info-menu > which is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `info'. >It is bound to m. >(Info-menu MENU-ITEM &optional FORK) It is friendlier. Sadly, it's not documented in the Info manual (at least, it wasn't last time I looked). [ .... ] >Actually, it might be even more useful if the "d" command for going >to a new directory would also have this FORK functionality, since >_that_ is the point where one usually wants to start a new info >path. And while we are at it, "t" could also make use of a FORK >prefix. Yes, why don't we just FORK the whole lot of them? n, p, u, m, d, f, l, i, t, , as well as retaining M-n? >David Kastrup -- Alan Mackenzie (Munich, Germany)