From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: goncholden Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Indentation with spaces Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2022 13:49:10 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87fskezg7s.fsf@dataswamp.org> <502iuwSbbpg1GjUcUUyEbY8VtY3fqVMZP95pnhdbyL2_uut8OXwK2KFBw1eILn40EDEaiTNpqrjdqSi34TyfAyVE6mfJ06_WlEKVHEsGmWw=@protonmail.com> Reply-To: goncholden Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25298"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Help GNU Emacs To: Skip Montanaro Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 09 17:17:10 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nzJuI-0006N6-7g for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 17:17:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37884 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzJuG-0005pP-T6 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 11:17:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49270) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzIXO-0003UM-UH for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 09:49:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-4318.protonmail.ch ([185.70.43.18]:12939) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzIXL-0005rM-15 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 09:49:26 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1654782555; x=1655041755; bh=oQA0ag/1sidZJFgNJwKLncv0rbLifPR4JnfX/GqijOk=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To: Feedback-ID:Message-ID; b=DRApXRcsAUBb+18jf9qr45ERzUpdYk1ATr845+XdHzOrpYKMANVdOXaK6AwKEVTH5 mMciss+uBtMEq9/pNxyIr4s3XZB0ImUx6LVfuvrQ5aHNO4HgVGU+Cux7vgknUo5hAK aYQPvqP4ijcscqFhikW/iDgcFebDZziLqsUziVCVhgnV9+QQYKi7PI3A/73GrxM6k5 dprL5iu7c6/BfWSj+ioDWJhjY2hQs8aqkAvnMNAqb4OeTnb7ad43zAdG1yTPdnQSka triAwDMilLqEsz3xalZCZiI8uainFuknMfCqVxLbxiyCVRSPZtgfcgMSYC2zJqZt8f lct9tfFxdaTxQ== In-Reply-To: <502iuwSbbpg1GjUcUUyEbY8VtY3fqVMZP95pnhdbyL2_uut8OXwK2KFBw1eILn40EDEaiTNpqrjdqSi34TyfAyVE6mfJ06_WlEKVHEsGmWw=@protonmail.com> Feedback-ID: 43053548:user:proton Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.43.18; envelope-from=goncholden@protonmail.com; helo=mail-4318.protonmail.ch X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:137558 Archived-At: ------- Original Message ------- On Friday, June 10th, 2022 at 1:37 AM, goncholden wrote: > ------- Original Message ------- > On Thursday, June 9th, 2022 at 9:51 PM, Skip Montanaro skip.montanaro@gma= il.com wrote: > > > > > > > As for TAB not inserting a literal TAB character, > > > > indentation is controlled by the major mode. I believe that > > > > for ELisp, the default indentation is just two spaces. > > > > (Don't quote me on that though.) > > > > > > Why is `indent-tabs-mode' t by default? Tabs should not > > > be used. > > > > We say that today. I've been using some version of Emacs since the > > early 1980s. Before the appearance of indentation-sensitive languages > > like Python, inserting a literal TAB when the TAB key was pressed made > > sense. > > > > I suspect it's a case of "old habits die hard." > > > Quite right and unfortunate Skip. Is there a way to show a symbol delineating the location and number of tabs= ?