From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: scame via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#47529: Make quoted entities stand out more in info Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2021 18:41:10 +0000 Message-ID: References: <83tuoqh5ih.fsf@gnu.org> <83h7kqh292.fsf@gnu.org> <83ft0ah1fy.fsf@gnu.org> <83czvegza5.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: scame Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7636"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: "47529@debbugs.gnu.org" <47529@debbugs.gnu.org> To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 01 20:42:14 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lS2Gk-0001qo-2T for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2021 20:42:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43888 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lS2Gi-0003aS-OO for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2021 14:42:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39466) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lS2GY-0003a6-5H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2021 14:42:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:47121) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lS2GX-000277-Ud for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2021 14:42:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lS2GX-0008V6-RH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2021 14:42:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: scame Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2021 18:42:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 47529 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 47529-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B47529.161730248332628 (code B ref 47529); Thu, 01 Apr 2021 18:42:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 47529) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Apr 2021 18:41:23 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58667 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lS2Fv-0008UC-Hy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2021 14:41:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-40138.protonmail.ch ([185.70.40.138]:39159) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lS2Ft-0008Ty-FF for 47529@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2021 14:41:21 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail; t=1617302474; bh=o++BqEfVgbj8kif5CbkynU2Bwrn5Y7Xkyf79SgXHSa8=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=HDErY+GERBBpq/nCnA6IDfu6DV/Rctg45N5bjH+LG24NVXJheCYnaby3T/jaomjJ/ TrrBmc3pUIF6zyfySWfqk8bJ1V5u56ZA0uYG6nZ+rfHJBsFQJpyIC2pXuzCvuRsmzA UWKsWOEC0gl7Sc30s3c1sz4YxQgRXSO/OWMKx7rE= In-Reply-To: <83czvegza5.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" X-ACL-Warn: , scame Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:203440 Archived-At: > > I'm skeptical because the likes of Spacemacs and Doom Emacs already > exist to fill that niche. Are those variants recommended on the Gnu Emacs homepage? If not then barebones Emacs should also offer an appealing experience in case a new user goes there from google. > Given the time it typically takes us to > change the defaults, by the time we do it, those new defaults are > already "stuck in" whatever previous decade you fancy for the kind of > unflattering language people tend to use in these cases. The project should just ask a graphical designer from an other free software project to create a pleasant default theme for Emacs (including the default colors, customize, info, etc.) It is not a task for engineers, so it should be done by somebody who's qualified to do this job.