From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Abraham S.A.H." via "Emacs development discussions." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tracing changes to elisp manual Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2024 16:47:12 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: References: <86plp6fhnk.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: "Abraham S.A.H." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23961"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Emacs Devel To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 14 16:48:38 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1spU4k-00065m-DO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 14 Sep 2024 16:48:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1spU4D-0008SJ-Ue; Sat, 14 Sep 2024 10:48:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1spU3w-0008Ro-B2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Sep 2024 10:47:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.w13.tutanota.de ([185.205.69.213]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1spU3t-00065S-DI; Sat, 14 Sep 2024 10:47:46 -0400 Original-Received: from tutadb.w10.tutanota.de (w10.api.tuta.com [IPv6:fd:ac::d:10]) by mail.w13.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 895E3212456D; Sat, 14 Sep 2024 16:47:12 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1726325232; s=s1; d=tuta.io; h=From:From:To:To:Subject:Subject:Content-Description:Content-ID:Content-Type:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Cc:Date:Date:In-Reply-To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Message-ID:Reply-To:References:References:Sender; bh=nqaxhdTsr2/0ZVEILf55dIl0g95e9V+lmtQfqclnYvs=; b=sf2mx6+HflTqkEuMpdhuCkNXDAFPHvrlk0iJtvUQJvGfpwyXjVv7IPhDf/wpyvSM 9adszzOLyldLL0j3K5Xbt//ElFt8WnlVor9S1iRSkoWwsWeJJb+FbF2j1QzVV8Juy8s CeHQTlHPSbvPdS9oq+C46FIoTfM8BzuVrjjYt3NVaOy2/cgScw+nJmXR5lKDSxEXTB9 m8F+GD0Ytlu6spGi9EgUAfmhjmZveGhSIUnx+ybDFu3RvUUU7mttWQeBMf6iP7Caz9M aaYz4buKh3IArrZOSPGeOuyrQLo996YMW3jcxyC2SRMJtExMwSDUenfDnmvdE/t1U20 HtxVjDagyg== In-Reply-To: <86plp6fhnk.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.205.69.213; envelope-from=arash.sah@tuta.io; helo=mail.w13.tutanota.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:323616 Archived-At: > More generally, we describe the changes in NEWS, and not on any lower lev= els, because doing that would be a significant maintenance burden, and we d= on't consider that as an efficient investment of our resources. You are right.=C2=A0 God bless you. > May I ask why you are interested in the changes on such a low level? Basically, every change in wording or punctuation are technically "changes in the manual", but I very much doubt that it could be of any practical interest. I think, I didn't express myself well.=C2=A0 I was to know the major elisp = documentation changes.=C2=A0 Not every change.=C2=A0=C2=A0 After reading venerable "An Introduction to Programming in Emacs Lisp" of= =C2=A0Robert J. Chassell, and a few online materials, I am on elisp manual = now; updating to Emcs 30.91 and seeing noticable changes, I fear to miss an= ything added to or changed in chapters I have already read and passed. But: >=C2=A0Alternatively, run Diff on the old and the new version of elisp.info= . This will work best for me. Besides, seems NEWS already does cover any important changes into elisp. Thanks -- Best Regards, Abraham Sent with Tutanota; https://tuta.com