From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Paul Edwards" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: simple editor required Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 07:51:09 GMT Organization: BigPond Internet Services (http://www.bigpond.net.au) Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <5lu1aqcev2.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> <84n0git5vn.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <84r85ry9ft.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <84vfv2ulf7.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <84wufgke19.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <5ly8zw7hah.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> <7TAJa.738$eG1.8604@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <5ln0g87dki.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> <848yrsgd4s.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <84fzlzsdj6.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <%d4Ka.174$9g2.1046@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <5l1xxj6pqf.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1056528755 12536 80.91.224.249 (25 Jun 2003 08:12:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 08:12:35 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 25 10:12:31 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19V5Bh-0002gj-00 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2003 09:59:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19V57o-000733-DD for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2003 03:55:28 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!nntp-relay.ihug.net!ihug.co.nz!out.nntp.be!propagator2-sterling!news-in-sterling.newsfeed.com!news.moat.net!ken-transit.news.telstra.net!news.telstra.net!news-server.bigpond.net.au!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 25 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 144.132.167.28 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@bigpond.net.au Original-X-Trace: news-server.bigpond.net.au 1056527469 144.132.167.28 (Wed, 25 Jun 2003 17:51:09 EST) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 17:51:09 EST Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:114712 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:11203 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:11203 "Stefan Monnier" wrote in message news:5l1xxj6pqf.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu... > > Thanks for agreeing! What's more surprising is that 10% > > of the user base didn't report this 10 years ago, and thus > > was fixed years before I they installed 20.7.1 on this box. > > It's probably because most users actually like to use the tool > in the way it was intended to work rather than work hard to > use it in a different way and then be surprised that it doesn't > do what they want. So I'm the only person, in the last 10 years, who has ever needed to maintain C code in various unpredictable formats, and just needs simple, logical indentation, to avoid having to hit space a lot? > > I am mostly using text mode to write C code. > > No wonder it doesn't work well. Try to use tar-mode to edit those > C files and you'll have even more fun ;-) :-) BFN. Paul.