From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chiron Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs: Problems of the Scratch Buffer Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 17:14:21 GMT Organization: TeraNews.com Message-ID: References: <1bqkr.13803$mL3.9455@newsfe23.iad> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1335028517 5347 80.91.229.3 (21 Apr 2012 17:15:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 17:15:17 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 21 19:15:17 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SLdty-0006FX-83 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Apr 2012 19:15:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34912 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SLdtx-0000qJ-G1 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Apr 2012 13:15:13 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!news2.google.com!npeer02.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!post01.iad.highwinds-media.com!newsfe23.iad.POSTED!7ed62f90!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Pan/0.133 (House of Butterflies) Original-Lines: 33 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@teranews.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 17:14:21 UTC X-Received-Bytes: 2332 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:192165 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:84580 Archived-At: On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 19:07:25 +0200, Thien-Thi Nguyen wrote: > () Chiron () Sat, 21 Apr > 2012 12:35:28 GMT > > If they had an incentive to make emacs appealing to the masses, > they'd do it. Since they aren't doing it, I think it's clear that > they don't have the incentive. > > I must admit, from where i sit, nothing is so clear. > Yes, you are about the fourth or fifth person who isn't understanding me - therefore, I must be doing something wrong, failing to be clear in some vital way that I just can't see. So, without meaning to be rude, I feel it is time for me to withdraw from this conversation. I don't seem to be able to say things clearly enough. > But Group B is happy with things the way they are - so why should > they go to the trouble to make the changes that Group A wants? > > Long-term, the biggest trouble arises from overly-rigid boundaries > between groups. What is a liquid border but a f{r}ont of change? Perhaps. But I don't dare respond, because I am likely to just get into more trouble with communicating. Maybe I need to get some sleep or something... -- All bad precedents began as justifiable measures. -- Gaius Julius Caesar, quoted in "The Conspiracy of Catiline", by Sallust