From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: uzibalqa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [External] : Running emacs without any customisation Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2022 20:42:57 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87pmexqew6.fsf@web.de> <87czaxq8iq.fsf@web.de> <878rlkrj9y.fsf@web.de> <87zge0q2u1.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39571"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Drew Adams , Dr Rainer Woitok , Christopher Dimech , "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 12 22:43:47 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oiiZv-000A7K-0w for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2022 22:43:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45772 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oiiZt-00050h-Vk for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2022 16:43:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34678) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oiiZO-00050A-4m for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2022 16:43:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-40140.protonmail.ch ([185.70.40.140]:64713) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oiiZL-0005fw-4Z for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2022 16:43:13 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=proton.me; s=protonmail; t=1665607388; x=1665866588; bh=YENNMeiY2v7SVR9EMA8LgsuTu/RLtg0DUQRy5pZ38Ik=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID; b=iQwXu5ErT1srOPM9E60zBym69IcRy6CYTY9UxAUobaPvdx4mQr8rgsqdMfILq2adA nRIKO3ofVSrbTZege0kseEARRLf1X2QYg/dLLxFtIHbfaRpKlo1wadCayQKq74gKxC ead5tGYmeeddRfjDCJrsjtjMx6Gl4CIMLMKEqIKkxkgjh108I1GdaFQZWFISzegdD2 6EbMufrm28JHcZXx6cMZ1YgrGr7SFgQJV6dInCk1vYcQDQQ7rsEYZg5Uu73tuiuD8K OXmCYzaCXdGYOtsv8ZLB8dIZC5DS9754NiRqXOXPt8o/t9kTvBQgAifTSZKe4QifoG 2CKZzbGTwx9Mw== In-Reply-To: <87zge0q2u1.fsf@web.de> Feedback-ID: 52887082:user:proton Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.40.140; envelope-from=uzibalqa@proton.me; helo=mail-40140.protonmail.ch X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:139871 Archived-At: ------- Original Message ------- On Wednesday, October 12th, 2022 at 7:06 PM, Michael Heerdegen wrote: > uzibalqa uzibalqa@proton.me writes: >=20 > > The problem is that one uses a fresh emacs session, emacs should not ha= ve > > these x resources set up, because emacs will actually make use of them. > > Whilst emacs makes use of them, I do not see that emacs can also refres= h > > them (remove them perhaps) to got the user vanilla emacs. >=20 >=20 > It's technically not treated differently than other sources of > configuration - or is it? Is there a difference compared to your init > file, your site file(s), your custom file, your abbrev save file, etc? >=20 > I mean, you, the user, explicitly told Emacs to use these settings. You > can suppress them being used using options, and you can remove them in > the same way you added them. If you don't like that being a source of > customization, just don't use it, there is redundancy (which is not > wrong). I have removed the init file, but emacs will force that configuration, rath= er than use vanilla emacs. I have not personally added them. Nevertheless, how can I remove them exac= tly? =20 > What I also wanted to add: note that Drew doesn't even use X, so it's no > surprise it's not on his radar. My situation is not that different. > Many other users might use Xresources. They might not have an init file > OTOH. Nothing special here IMO. >=20 > Michael.