From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: goncholden Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: [External] : Re: Indentation with spaces Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2022 03:08:57 +0000 Message-ID: References: <834k0rzm3j.fsf@gnu.org> <83tu8ry585.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: goncholden Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36266"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Eli Zaretskii , "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 12 05:09:49 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o0Dz3-0009Ha-NW for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 12 Jun 2022 05:09:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37140 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o0Dz2-0003dG-Is for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 11 Jun 2022 23:09:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41298) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o0DyO-0003cJ-0E for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Jun 2022 23:09:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-4319.protonmail.ch ([185.70.43.19]:20827) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o0DyL-0008N9-RW; Sat, 11 Jun 2022 23:09:07 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1655003343; x=1655262543; bh=w3h/Vs3usc1/jsPBRyg2Txoc8HBDtjtjaJpJRPZY91A=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To: Feedback-ID:Message-ID; b=SuQCDWTTZlsO2nVjycEO0+VoIMUNRmS0FJb2ynjpLdkVZPVoimXUyoboEYNtsD0lK Lipy9Bn9IQmYfMTWTnRDRBs4u1hTDqkNyg0UUFFN8sMqRind8T3+37fTWNtEr/pZiE fvdHPZYt0Udt0/2xC1yeLPQCGs4nHHpgxDI8yqv6v2n5+6XqOKC57DuY+YUBxk9hsC JBgyKx2JFEp04rLs8QRpV0YGBETl3/ovcJOT0acXxbXf9b6dEZ7JtFKBzQ+5XXQ3Xc GKk+3DyDvDiBxjHbQALIEG+Hgenb3IjNhftdA3xgBILB2ERZhjpap8HbPHNb7Rwwga XfIL7G2SuAGow== In-Reply-To: Feedback-ID: 43053548:user:proton Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.43.19; envelope-from=goncholden@protonmail.com; helo=mail-4319.protonmail.ch X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:137710 Archived-At: ------- Original Message ------- On Sunday, June 12th, 2022 at 2:21 PM, Drew Adams w= rote: > > The problem is much more complicated, so it is > > taking long time for developers to understand > > the nature of legacy code. Have any of them > > really worked with legacy fortran code written > > by many people[?]. I mean real legacy from the > > late 1950's to late 1980's. > > > I can't speak for "developers". But I have - I've > worked with legacy Fortran code from the 50s, 60s, > 70s, and 80s. I've even written some of it. > > If you don't find your happiness with Emacs then > you might consider using another editor. I've > also used editors from that prehistoric period - > maybe one of those will be more to your liking. My plan was to stimulate happiness with Emacs even for these codes, without using other editors. > I prefer Emacs, though TBH I haven't used it with > Fortran. But your mileage may vary. Fortunately > it's easy to return Emacs and get your money back. > Quick and easy. Actually, don't even bother to > return it. You see. That was my whole point when others start bashing who they want to call novices, when they themselves cannot back their called solutions with real experience with such codes on emacs. Looks like electric-indent-mode was doing this behaviour. Meaning that electric indendation should be enabled carefully on legacy code. > > > The smart-ass kid showed a clenched fist to the > > > guru, and asked what was in the fist. The reply: > > > a bird. The kid asked whether it was alive or > > > dead. The reply: "That's up to you." > It really is up to you. Nobody's forcing you > to find peace with Emacs, let alone to find your > happiness with it. > > People here (and elsewhere, where you've apparently > repeated the same question) are just trying to help > you. Clearly they're not succeeding at that, which > I guess is too bad. It just takes time and the possibility that those considered gurus in the society overestimate their ability or knowledge. > A horse can be led to water...