From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: completing-read depricated initial-input Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 13:15:00 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: References: <87y1xqwbvm.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: carlmarcos@tutanota.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18912"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Robert Pluim Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 21 13:16:04 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o3brY-0004jK-0R for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 13:16:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33566 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o3brW-00055l-7Q for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 07:16:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33628) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o3bqd-00055A-R4 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 07:15:07 -0400 Original-Received: from w1.tutanota.de ([81.3.6.162]:40482) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o3bqY-0005YA-Cd for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 07:15:07 -0400 Original-Received: from w3.tutanota.de (unknown [192.168.1.164]) by w1.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A56FBF932; Tue, 21 Jun 2022 11:15:00 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1655810100; s=s1; d=tutanota.com; h=From:From:To:To:Subject:Subject:Content-Description:Content-ID:Content-Type:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Cc:Date:Date:In-Reply-To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Message-ID:Reply-To:References:References:Sender; bh=JfBeYY6p/jA80ri8LMOC75ggBGnZb2BSOOir3iayU5w=; b=2vjMt5Fz4V4dXVSNvFGpMkHn0HDgumPo0dsafT3mazTyTXScRz5oK3fTjwKv5VNS jCDYGnpL0yi6PJXoAYKsHI+tOluUSAyUHku/uUOpuwliGqWSq1hWwo9/afFXnWzWXah bDgjT3m4txPj77kO0RIdrG6yWM8sCBfj3pp/Fp9F3PZWHOl8wO/UEAwhdVByKpyecGq gKVnJ4tDlM5Sadv9Lfa+uZl6ZBAb8Q380abjF1EzFiOY0EkK4RTc7Fi+PjAbeuOhDIK Ut0wu+Lr2Z9mfhFlTe5miE2UATKauMUatRvU6TmVspdwzOn/N5X3YNDBd2L8SOLXrBW CTF7c5V9SA== In-Reply-To: <87y1xqwbvm.fsf@gmail.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=81.3.6.162; envelope-from=carlmarcos@tutanota.com; helo=w1.tutanota.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:137954 Archived-At: --=20 Sent with Tutanota, enjoy secure & ad-free emails.=20 Jun 21, 2022, 10:26 by rpluim@gmail.com: >>>>>> On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 09:56:59 +0200 (CEST), carlmarcos--- via Users l= ist for the GNU Emacs text editor said: >>>>>> > > >> Have been reading the docstring of `completing-read`. > > >> (completing-read PROMPT COLLECTION &optional PREDICATE REQUIRE-MATCH > >> INITIAL-INPUT HIST DEF INHERIT-INPUT-METHOD) > > >> INITIAL-INPUT states that this feature is deprecated - it is best to = pass nil > >> for INITIAL-INPUT and supply the default value DEF instead.=C2=A0=20 > > >> When do you plan to remove the `INITIAL-INPUT` argument from `complet= ing-read`? > > No such plan exists. At best Emacs could start ignoring that arg, but > we can=CA=BCt just change the signature of such a public function. > > Robert > Have put some explanation on the value of keeping the functionality of `INI= TIAL-INPUT`, rather than stopping it having any effect.=C2=A0 I can see the value of using an initia= l value for certain situations, rather than=C2=A0 always having the field e= mpty, particularly when one has `REQUIRE-MATCH` being `t`.