From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: fatiparty--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: File for minor mode not found Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2022 17:37:49 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: References: <878rvpeyek.fsf@gmx.net-MszOZsb----2> <874k6cgap3.fsf@gmx.net-MszaWDg----2> Reply-To: fatiparty@tutanota.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29733"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: fatiparty--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor To: Stephen Berman Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 09 17:41:15 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n6bFq-0007YS-7A for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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bh=VBvdLZr2XTjsNK8wMlCvVIsCYL9fqmDw+shPht+rbAk=; b=KkKrf1kwc/Eey8DKn2XBC1MSsLNq0JpeIFf0WWLlOl8P2Fh7PfU+KF/EaJkEhHNZ zAsTJm9jSWa7i4EKprdGUI75NsZfsNlHoSVlhmOhMOCSpsuhVxowD+5GUrv1pNFbXTc l7hwQbrCDvepf7wEXRJxIr9Wts8V3DXMEy2b8jw40qcznVvvX2roie+CnqWHgU9biDP QmCfAGIJAlFl9bNIllPY3089juMGAqU58/8rrWaqFtIraP9QsYAMOu3Z8zuR7wBxwBP W/rE4rljpnKQ08H+BppJQfHvUwIX9TD7R39BfnkWkYqhvNRy9vWAZE4gTrTlEssLQo2 tBEbMi6vpw== In-Reply-To: <874k6cgap3.fsf@gmx.net-MszaWDg----2> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=81.3.6.162; envelope-from=fatiparty@tutanota.com; helo=w1.tutanota.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:135157 Archived-At: Jan 9, 2022, 16:01 by stephen.berman@gmx.net: > On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 16:46:51 +0100 (CET) fatiparty--- via Users list for t= he GNU Emacs text editor wrote: > >> Jan 9, 2022, 15:12 by stephen.berman@gmx.net: >> >>> On Sun, 9 Jan 2022 15:43:42 +0100 (CET) fatiparty--- via Users list for= the >>> GNU Emacs text editor wrote: >>> > [...] > >>>> It does not exist.=C2=A0 The file is named daph-ideograms.el but I am = using=20 >>>> (provide 'daph) at the end of the file.=C2=A0 And using (require 'daph= ) after=20 >>>> setting the load-path in another file. >>>> >>> >>> That should be (require 'daph "daph-ideograms"), see `C-h f require':. >>> >>> require is a built-in function in =E2=80=98C source code=E2=80=99. >>> =20 >>> (require FEATURE &optional FILENAME NOERROR) >>> =20 >>> If feature FEATURE is not loaded, load it from FILENAME. >>> If FEATURE is not a member of the list =E2=80=98features=E2=80=99, the= n the feature is >>> not loaded; so load the file FILENAME. >>> =20 >>> If FILENAME is omitted, the printname of FEATURE is used as the file >>> name, and =E2=80=98load=E2=80=99 will try to load this name appended w= ith the suffix >>> =E2=80=98.elc=E2=80=99, =E2=80=98.el=E2=80=99, or the system-dependent= suffix for dynamic module >>> files, in that order. >>> >>> Steve Berman >>> >> >> Thanks Steve.=C2=A0 One thing that has been difficult to see, is the >> relationship between (provide 'daph) and (require 'daph).=C2=A0 Followin= g >> your suggestion, I need to have (require 'daph "daph-ideograms").=C2=A0 = Are >> there any implications for the (provide 'daph) part? >> > > No, that's fine. As its doc string says, `provide' just "[a]nnounce[s] > that FEATURE is a feature of the current Emacs." So there's no > requirement that FEATURE be the name of an existing file. But `require' > loads a feature from an existing file, so it has to find that file, > using the name of the feature as a default. But if the file providing > that feature has a different name, you have to pass that name (just the > base name without extension) to `require'. > > Steve Berman > I have difficulty about the utility of 'provide'.=C2=A0 You have pointed ou= t that (provide 'daph) simply announces that daph is a feature of the current emacs.=C2=A0 Can it = be any name?=C2=A0 The=20 manual states that "calling 'provide' adds 'feature' tothe front of 'featur= es' if it is not already in that list".=C2=A0 This suggests that provide should also use=C2=A0 (pro= vide 'daph-ideograms).=C2=A0=20 I guess that one could define the feature as 'daph' when using 'provide'.= =C2=A0 And use the feature 'daph' when calling 'require'.=C2=A0 In this way, the 'daph' will be recognise the= 'daph' feature in the features variable, but use the optional filename "daph-ideograms" Thus daph-ideograms.el ********************** =C2=A0 (provide 'daph) test.el *******=20 =C2=A0 (add-to-list =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 'load-path "~/Admin/bin/gadi-1.0/typex/ziggu= rat-protowrit/daph-ideograms") =C2=A0=C2=A0 ;; Load the Daph Package if it has not already been loaded. =C2=A0=C2=A0 (require 'daph "daph-ideograms") -------- My load path is quite long, and wonder how this can be shortened by storing= in some other variable before passing to 'add-to-list'.