From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Have Customize always use `custom-file` Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2022 11:44:47 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: References: <877dbge2nj.fsf@yahoo.com> <87sfu3bzm3.fsf@yahoo.com> <87fsq3bxjr.fsf@yahoo.com> Reply-To: xenodasein@tutanota.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36289"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: luangruo@yahoo.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 04 11:45:50 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n4hKA-0009Bo-7T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 11:45:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49744 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4hK8-00058H-OL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 05:45:48 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54092) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4hJD-0004MQ-D4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 05:44:51 -0500 Original-Received: from w4.tutanota.de ([81.3.6.165]:43756) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4hJB-0007dw-Tu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 05:44:51 -0500 Original-Received: from w3.tutanota.de (unknown [192.168.1.164]) by w4.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2153E1060171; Tue, 4 Jan 2022 10:44:48 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1641293087; s=s1; d=tutanota.de; h=From:From:To:To:Subject:Subject:Content-Description:Content-ID:Content-Type:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Cc:Date:Date:In-Reply-To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Message-ID:Reply-To:References:References:Sender; bh=2/TIKWRIv0+MY+s15wQRmzzJ27A/M8tQ6S1ePPPEjz4=; b=pUyH4VYrP7S1E09dackE+fef5F2UZWVlUHBnDRFenPtNbCCZ2yt3rl/nEMSdy8vY WHIdSGxp6Cd2U9JQd05VOzTC2pXKizcm64lJfzLzlJq+9PM2bxOlVSG1dA0JWipcEjC Y2sUj0Rg6vRJrbLROMWy0PBErbR6hna4SChl2re7Mvqe75xPpkOGfjHF4m2HgOSs9Wx Akbcd5U65TNZh6OhzFdbOjuXiE8Gy321mjQl332If5Snpo2uKndBkd4jLLU+AbcTRqx gnk9YQWx/t3fQwJX2LlKjXWSTAXhICyvSoPf5ny41z/DgbD0o9qXH9a15pSFlLQp2ce MtcYWkUy8Q== In-Reply-To: <87fsq3bxjr.fsf@yahoo.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=81.3.6.165; envelope-from=xenodasein@tutanota.de; helo=w4.tutanota.de X-Spam_score_int: -1 X-Spam_score: -0.2 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.2 / 5.0 requ) DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284141 Archived-At: Jan 4, 2022, 13:33 by luangruo@yahoo.com: > xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions." > writes: > >> I think what you are trying to say is that my statement to which you >> answered is false, but you are failing to contradict it. >> > > I'll say this again: you were claiming that custom specifically has > problems with autoloads, citing Stefan's reply, where in fact he says > that variables should not be autoloaded without as much as a mention as > to custom. > > Thanks. > If you read further, you will also see one thing mentioned, that can only o= ccur with a defcustom.=C2=A0 Here I quote what you are trying but failing to con= tradict: "Stefan mentions existence quirks and corner cases on some interactions of autoloading and Customize." Anyway, this is pointless.=C2=A0 You are wasting everyone's time here and s= pamming the list.