From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Development Speed Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2021 18:02:25 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: References: <83r1a4yfpt.fsf@gnu.org> <8335mky4rl.fsf@gnu.org> <87k0fvh1zp.fsf@yahoo.com> Reply-To: xenodasein@tutanota.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9706"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 23 18:06:11 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n0RXe-0002DL-Nz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 23 Dec 2021 18:06:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56672 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n0RXd-0006D2-5d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 23 Dec 2021 12:06:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55584) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n0RUE-0001YZ-CW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Dec 2021 12:02:41 -0500 Original-Received: from w4.tutanota.de ([81.3.6.165]:50664) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n0RU6-0001R1-8q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Dec 2021 12:02:38 -0500 Original-Received: from w3.tutanota.de (unknown [192.168.1.164]) by w4.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01575106035C; Thu, 23 Dec 2021 17:02:25 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1640278945; s=s1; d=tutanota.de; h=From:From:To:To:Subject:Subject:Content-Description:Content-ID:Content-Type:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Cc:Date:Date:In-Reply-To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Message-ID:Reply-To:References:References:Sender; bh=0Da4yM7HqD+y/Ah13PzYDwfMLi4NQWuZRPYm6YunTAY=; b=LUkmyHIEfu4ZznhgDzz45muQvNn6DkDstrygHJzfwDXJUAb3IAWfiBSR6bTS7OI0 CYZGED5hXu1qr5dDk4TzuxYquoHKWqih+tIu//uGFXqsvjHoJmT9yKR4NO4XDTVNIqB VXhXozXNuko8w+RrEvttLWCz8DaT807tOUB75h8rh02zz1SOE/iviVDOnyCjQB/ZSH3 QqEw1QkNBzrpFHCZfxKEHnx3VwZ++EkdtuL5YyhkP/QYabTB/rrkR1GAPgk2nZNDs8R GHwKVwgQxhuhDsAT20gqRpOvStSFKTnI1TQhAESo1T38aHTlBnotLkh+BaEqEJxymer vu7eZbRHNw== In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=81.3.6.165; envelope-from=xenodasein@tutanota.de; helo=w4.tutanota.de X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:282981 Archived-At: Quoting: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2021-12/msg02400.ht= ml From: Stefan Monnier > That's not my experience.=C2=A0 It's rather than other way around: featur= es > of the new standard are more likely to have bugs because they've not > been tested for as many years. I would say the same, if we were talking about C2X, but would you also say the same for C11, which is ten years old? (Well, I originally said C17 but on paper they are the same bar a some of fixes.)