From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Emacs Explorer? Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 10:06:16 -0700 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1081963565 20380 80.91.224.253 (14 Apr 2004 17:26:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 17:26:05 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 14 19:25:47 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BDo8x-0007tm-00 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 19:25:47 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BDo8w-0004PF-00 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 19:25:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BDo7l-00055u-BA for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 13:24:33 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BDo0U-0001wa-Pp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 13:17:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BDnqO-00079E-Em for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 13:07:07 -0400 Original-Received: from [141.146.126.231] (helo=agminet04.oracle.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.30) id 1BDnqN-00077x-PB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 13:06:36 -0400 Original-Received: from agminet04.oracle.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agminet04.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id i3EH6UPD024436 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 10:06:31 -0700 Original-Received: from rgmgw3.us.oracle.com (rgmgw3.us.oracle.com [138.1.191.12]) by agminet04.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.2/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id i3EH6IPD024238 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 10:06:20 -0700 Original-Received: from rgmgw3.us.oracle.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rgmgw3.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.4/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id i3EH6HUZ028288 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 11:06:17 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap (dradams-lap.us.oracle.com [130.35.177.126]) by rgmgw3.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.4/Switch-3.1.0) with SMTP id i3EH6HfW028276 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 11:06:17 -0600 Original-To: "Emacs-Devel" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:21629 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:21629 blankslate.bluesky.don'tfreak.justwhatif.ifdupdelete Here's a set of assertions, some of which might solicit worthwhile discussion in the context of Emacs development. (Or not.) 1. Windows Explorer is the (min (best | only good)) part of Windows. 2. Dired does some similar things to what Windows Explorer does. 3. Dired does more than Windows Explorer. 4. Windows Explorer does more than Dired. 5. We should add some of the handy-dandy Windows-Explorer features to Dired. 6. A folder forest a la tree-widget (but with drag & drop?) would be a great start. 7. Not only a folder forest, but also things like different display options (a la WE View>Details etc. and View>Choose Details). Some of the default dired-listing-switches stuff, like user & group, is not the most useful stuff to see most of the time (yes, I know I can change dired-listing-switches, TYVM). 8. We should add column headings to Dired. 9. Users should be able to click Dired column headings to sort by them. I'm not acquainted with the current work on Dired, so forgive me if this is redundant or has already been beat to death. I just really appreciate both Dired and Windows Explorer - each for what it does best, and I would love to see some of the Windows-Explorer features added to Dired. - Drew FYI - I've added a couple of the really *minor* Windows-Explorer features to my own dired: . To select multiple files, you can click MB1 then Shift-click MB1, or just MB1-drag a region. . Context-dependent MB3 popup menu (operates on all files in the region or the single pointed file). . Windows file associations (for MB2 click).