From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Info tutorial is out of date Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 09:37:57 -0700 Message-ID: References: <200607170354.k6H3slOj025701@jane.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1153154477 23386 80.91.229.2 (17 Jul 2006 16:41:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:41:17 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 17 18:41:15 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G2W9F-0001RX-8R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 18:40:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G2W9E-0005GH-Qf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 12:40:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G2W6p-0003yi-Jn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 12:38:16 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G2W6m-0003wL-6z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 12:38:13 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G2W6m-0003wE-14 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 12:38:12 -0400 Original-Received: from [148.87.113.118] (helo=rgminet01.oracle.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1G2W9T-0003L0-Bf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 12:40:59 -0400 Original-Received: from rcsmt251.oracle.com (rcsmt251.oracle.com [148.87.90.196]) by rgminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.6/Switch-3.1.6) with ESMTP id k6HBQCv6002530 for ; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 10:38:06 -0600 Original-Received: from dradams-lap.us.oracle.com by rcsmt251.oracle.com with ESMTP id 1573570861153154278; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 10:37:58 -0600 Original-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200607170354.k6H3slOj025701@jane.dms.auburn.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 X-Whitelist: TRUE X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:57198 Archived-At: Emacs Info is too close to the standalone Info to justify two separate manuals Today. But that closeness is artificial. There is no reason for a newbie Emacs user to go through extra hoops (e.g. node `Help-Inv' and starting with lessons on `n', `p' etc.) just for our packaging considerations. It's about user convenience, not our own convenience. I see no reason why we can't have two versions of the tutorial. Those two versions could of course use single-sourcing; that is, the same source code could be used to generate both. In documentation, that is done all the time, and that is already the kind of thing we do when we create Info and Tex versions of a manual from the same source code.