From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: excalamus--- via "Emacs development discussions." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: GNU Emacs raison d'etre Date: Thu, 28 May 2020 16:12:24 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: References: <70bb51fd-447d-928c-4d69-1c9673a44471@online.de> <871rnnvmdx.fsf@red-bean.com> <87pnb7sira.fsf@red-bean.com> <87lflcg0k9.fsf@red-bean.com> <0f1cd319-fa8c-4453-b909-fdd36f337906@default> Reply-To: excalamus@tutanota.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="47116"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Karl Fogel , Richard Stallman , Andreas Roehler , Emacs Devel To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 28 16:13:02 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jeJHJ-000C7W-H6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 28 May 2020 16:13:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39146 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jeJHI-0001sz-H4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 28 May 2020 10:13:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48402) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jeJGn-0000qQ-Mc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 May 2020 10:12:29 -0400 Original-Received: from w1.tutanota.de ([81.3.6.162]:35148) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jeJGl-0003bN-SM; Thu, 28 May 2020 10:12:29 -0400 Original-Received: from w3.tutanota.de (unknown [192.168.1.164]) by w1.tutanota.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FCC6FA0717; Thu, 28 May 2020 14:12:24 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1590675144; s=s1; d=tutanota.com; h=From:From:To:To:Subject:Subject:Content-Description:Content-ID:Content-Type:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Cc:Date:Date:In-Reply-To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Message-ID:Reply-To:References:References:Sender; bh=8JZBZxBfq/G0gz1a9JD8hNeyMmB4Nkdk4Rl646X/Qhk=; b=EWfH7tyWvqkdGmkqmdDFN244poupHqw5c/c0FQJJDZMg3M+sctiwnJjijWWg2bej F04BuucgHGGLC+l7y9haJD4629xGd7Vk7n878BFYZdS1tg8IAvTVseCB94tsRayBzd9 lDUqXkjIqH46eIIASYif9/BxuoAvnyfyzp3fsZwPYhuuOcrQWIntkuWO+s4nnJjzF+4 o3jegOpfc9QsOwjE7H54wwTSJxcIZt/Zc3rpLo43IDRuJrEsQ9NokWse5QehmvrHjuy hbIGLsGZIKmwqtrRKMkalnBMnXi5FQHFqrgrnPGLeDwSS1VVg/4cJ5rJiPn0DyDujlz 9dYqxx4rHw== In-Reply-To: <0f1cd319-fa8c-4453-b909-fdd36f337906@default> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=81.3.6.162; envelope-from=excalamus@tutanota.com; helo=w1.tutanota.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/28 10:12:24 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:251546 Archived-At: 28 mai 2020 =C3=A0 02:13 de drew.adams@oracle.com: >> >We made this very simple a few years ago: Just keep typing C-g. >> >I guess these users don't know that. >> >> Sometimes they know that, but it's still stressful for them to have to >> do it.=C2=A0 >> What does C-g mean? Why the sequence C-g specifically? I think the disconne= ct may be that C-g appears outwardly meaningless. For contrast, clearly means to retreat and is often used in other = applications to cancel (e.g. vi).=C2=A0 C-h is related to help via the 'h',= which makes it easy to learn/remember.=C2=A0 So why 'g'?=C2=A0