From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: goncholden Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Indentation with spaces Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2022 18:26:09 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87fskezg7s.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87zgimm0f8.fsf@yahoo.com> <87edzwlt69.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87zgiklpid.fsf@yahoo.com> Reply-To: goncholden Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20001"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 10 20:34:56 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nzjTE-0004tp-EL for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2022 20:34:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47572 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzjTC-0004Nb-WC for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2022 14:34:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38832) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzjKv-0001o4-RX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2022 14:26:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-40137.protonmail.ch ([185.70.40.137]:16969) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzjKt-00041F-6c for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2022 14:26:21 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1654885576; x=1655144776; bh=O6Uu82lKhYOnzLmfV0jBDAxsxcQX7cmGh03VCs0qEyM=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To: Feedback-ID:Message-ID; b=gtxut94F99GFOGK8ixDuRsXVYT7ugoYxd4DqTN2v0+p2s5GGz++/+JWAXXs2T9FSu jVFhuqch9GqhUbaTlz9Q+vTdxPMCV60z6kXxR4X+2NZlOllXgTvOXvK7mSOg7iL9va G8RiiV3PG/fC3g7O/FSU8LwVeEOp+Q35OjO/l6p9JEW7l33el+Vd1wGZ12H7m9wT/9 3oy8IOii1PjMu9tqbEds8jZPReKeNh6yEHvxOCdtILIv/HYfrg+dLLCmiW6WLNCIp/ pYZa4ajI5+3wQ6ifkrSSD0kz5XxV1TmX7noRHocc04WqTOMa4rQ6/KFdq9VkYy7xYX 7lsBB7wWjD7eA== In-Reply-To: <87zgiklpid.fsf@yahoo.com> Feedback-ID: 43053548:user:proton Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.40.137; envelope-from=goncholden@protonmail.com; helo=mail-40137.protonmail.ch X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:137620 Archived-At: ------- Original Message ------- On Friday, June 10th, 2022 at 11:35 PM, Po Lu wrote: > Emanuel Berg incal@dataswamp.org writes: > > > It's lame, inexact typewriter stuff. Try arrange output data > > from some shell tool with tabs and see how robust it'll be. > > > Where did I say people should use tabs to print data? In principle that should work but because tab widths are not a consistent m= easure directly related to spaces (although being defined that way), they c= annot be reliably relied upon. They were introduced as a matter of convenience. This has substantially ch= anged with the introduction of proportional fonts. > > As for source you can't align with any hope of precision since > > some other dude will have another tab width setting, so then > > he will arrange it the way he thinks it should look, and this > > "change" to the source rings all the little bells and so > > on ... > > > We have a single tab width setting for all code. And it's very easy to > put `tab-width' in the local variables section of a file.