From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Heime Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: UTF-8 characters in comments of a program Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2023 11:04:30 +0000 Message-ID: References: <837cngs9fo.fsf@gnu.org> <878r7wnkzu.fsf@dataswamp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4889"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Emanuel Berg Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 22 13:05:53 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1quWHJ-00011r-1r for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 22 Oct 2023 13:05:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1quWGe-0002V3-0Z; Sun, 22 Oct 2023 07:05:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1quWGN-0002T9-S7 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Oct 2023 07:04:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-40138.protonmail.ch ([185.70.40.138]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1quWGJ-0008G3-PS for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Oct 2023 07:04:54 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1697972680; x=1698231880; bh=HnUMDSdAvO2x9A8Xzmjxqv6/PiL5BT8sNeGBlIOPvls=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=dN/JRMST/KW0lV3v5Z1tRUS1JfoQQHFaZALDp1juMGUO6ksWbxHIzANfrgtBx2LpP iSXb036aDpXrmAWStj1eXWPW7cHdeZyYu3yltTSIgrzBEMBA0TMcbRfFA9V9r4wuBg mZHJZTFIYU1ozO5RdDkdef55kJyFbKC8EtWsDzem4CCg8H5qSQhWdWTCbnrvvjf3e3 MSWBhRBICbrz536Rk438DCaphe9gSxbVe148//jXESuiX+y3MLR3R729xqCD23qBI8 4X5CFwikseDPnmgVM06VD35QSwDRWf/SbGDM1Nui2F+5VEqoYSkLf7vOKyYOeodoCq E/EiZ4aWgJD7w== In-Reply-To: <878r7wnkzu.fsf@dataswamp.org> Feedback-ID: 57735886:user:proton Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.40.138; envelope-from=heimeborgia@protonmail.com; helo=mail-40138.protonmail.ch X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:145349 Archived-At: Sent with Proton Mail secure email. ------- Original Message ------- On Sunday, October 22nd, 2023 at 1:49 AM, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Jonathon McKitrick via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor wrote: >=20 > > > If you want to know whether language compilers and > > > interpreters accept UTF-8 encoded characters, then you will > > > need to consult the documentation of the relevant compiler. > > > AFAIK, C/C++ compilers support this only in recent > > > versions. For Emacs Lisp, the answer is YES, as the default > > > encoding of ELisp files is UTF-8. > >=20 > > A few years ago I found a bug in an input form of our web > > app, and I thoroughly enjoyed writing unit tests to verify > > the fix, including the 'poo' emoji. This was in Scala, BTW. >=20 >=20 > In certain applications, notably those who deal with > communication between people, those chars sure has their > place, just like support for different human languages, not > just English, obviously should be supported. >=20 > For example when I talk about countries in my smartphone > Signal app, I like to add their flags after the country names. > It spices things up and look nice and besides everyone loves > flags, right? >=20 > But in computer-computer technology and programming not so > much so IMO. I'm sure modern programming languages that are > designed and implemented today can support them, but what is > the gain, really? Maybe I'm just old-school. It is not old-school. It is western-school, because some writing systems it is customary to introduce ideograms representing concepts or ideas=20 rather than a specific word in a language. Examples include Cuneiform, Egyptian and Anatolian Hieroglyphs, Mayan, Chinese Scripts, Japanese, the list is not short. =20 > -- > underground experts united > https://dataswamp.org/~incal