From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Heime via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#59286: Documentation for seq-count Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2022 17:59:44 +0000 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Heime Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8771"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 59286@debbugs.gnu.org To: Rudolf =?UTF-8?Q?Adamkovi=C4=8D?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 16 19:01:17 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ovMiq-00023Z-SR for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2022 19:01:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ovMij-0005iS-M5; Wed, 16 Nov 2022 13:01:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ovMic-0005hS-Fu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2022 13:01:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ovMic-0005Wl-6s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2022 13:01:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ovMic-0001CS-2H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2022 13:01:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Heime Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2022 18:01:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 59286 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 59286-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B59286.16686216214551 (code B ref 59286); Wed, 16 Nov 2022 18:01:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 59286) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Nov 2022 18:00:21 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58066 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ovMhw-0001BK-38 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2022 13:00:20 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-4318.protonmail.ch ([185.70.43.18]:19447) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ovMhg-00018v-M4 for 59286@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2022 13:00:18 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1668621597; x=1668880797; bh=nMJDtm1HKGAkKfRroZ0tDe4FgawD7IpHv8+wSrwgtzk=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=UUeKrCgnadgvMijNVg8R66fiSzCHFfHbXE3rtExCJy9ITja/hipxQ8m6aHwTRHg9T ipbcHlhO7afC/DQZ+6DzAZ/ri0qGW0jvsH+QYPM4/kqvKhA/wdJ77yHbs3LO+SoA7j sPQpStPtbNvvBN6TXgHCcwm4pM/aBA1WH+RRvHPXL2N0ZeXm1R239vuIX3lvAiriDn TFZrLCfpynqeqMxoph5rVA+D7HLrbz3QtJExKgLZlQEJghxggWiz+b80eCJZd9ya8O i7FleqO3aTc9DVVsWj2ZMbDrFm0xy6eC8WboH/7Y7a5sb4WJDL3GOIHFGeOYiszCyl 4sBOTXhfY3qDg== In-Reply-To: Feedback-ID: 57735886:user:proton X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:248032 Archived-At: ------- Original Message ------- On Wednesday, November 16th, 2022 at 5:18 PM, Rudolf Adamkovi=C4=8D via "Bu= g reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" wrote: > Heime via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text > editors" bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org writes: >=20 > > A description that is quite undecipherable. >=20 >=20 > I have recently used this function for the first time (when contributing > to Org), and I found its description exceptionally clear. What do you > find undecipherable? >=20 > P.S. #1 >=20 > It helps to know that "PRED" stands for the English word PREDICATE. Fine, but how do you use that? No information, no example. Seems to me th= at authors of documentation willfully avoid showing examples or where to find = them. > Experienced users and native speakers may laugh, but the fact that "BEG" > does not mean "to beg" but "the beginning", adds completely unnecessary > cognitive overhead to some. The same applies to "PRED". >=20 > (The Scheme standard, for example, also uses shorthand forms, such as > "obj", but it lists all of them, right at the beginning. Perhaps Emacs > has such a list too? If so, the help browser should use it to assist > the user to make sense of these non-words.) >=20 > P.S. #2 >=20 > When I used this function, I wished it would take ELEMENT-OR-PREDICATE, > so that >=20 > (seq-count 2 '(0 2 2 2 0)) =3D> 3, >=20 >=20 > and I still wonder if Emacs comes with any such function. >=20 > (I ended up using `equal' wrapped in the PREDICATE.) >=20 > Rudy > -- > "Mathematics takes us still further from what is human into the region > of absolute necessity, to which not only the actual world, but every > possible world, must conform." > -- Bertrand Russell, 1902 >=20 > Rudolf Adamkovi=C4=8D salutis@me.com [he/him] >=20 > Studenohorsk=C3=A1 25 > 84103 Bratislava > Slovakia >