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Thread-Index: AQHVpPfrdICxkJ1qBEmYkBiK9iATUaeer4sz In-Reply-To: <20191127075419.GD12856@protected.rcdrun.com> Accept-Language: sv-SE, en-US Content-Language: sv-SE x-incomingtopheadermarker: OriginalChecksum:C27F637457663C7D7EBC8E15AE929A880ECB6FD5EE21EFF15EA020CF9248C89C; UpperCasedChecksum:852BF0C19D496864B373CE06674B501FEB62577F33D85B96B2E9553EF3277256; SizeAsReceived:6960; Count:46 x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-tmn: [bSl/Bhd1HXlxW3hbTaBjMZT+o6bCtv1j] x-ms-publictraffictype: Email x-incomingheadercount: 46 x-eopattributedmessage: 0 x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 0ba0d9f2-63df-4491-1625-08d77313e09a x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: VE1EUR01HT046: x-ms-exchange-purlcount: 4 x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0; x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: oC5Aq+fcsFtoReCjnzuG2jrXXo0zJogmGJN2eFSNNaYXQ+Hw3JkMJwj7lbl6DlA5r0d4R1W/OYJUTC7nSnqaMWLn6C/rvHoBnm3+Y+V+MZ2l06J9LivcPJcYcDNxy3B7Mx0XzfY7i+jgjPDNERk8O8hRHkK2MSbU+Vqt+CvjSy0auoLLrDIPek8JvVZnO1cIuVMo/8vYkEAwsPwbRN4wIS7ZOllwAPsmOZ1I4e9VUFA= x-ms-exchange-transport-forked: True X-OriginatorOrg: live.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-RMS-PersistedConsumerOrg: 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 0ba0d9f2-63df-4491-1625-08d77313e09a X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-rms-persistedconsumerorg: 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 27 Nov 2019 08:29:10.4692 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Internet X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 84df9e7f-e9f6-40af-b435-aaaaaaaaaaaa X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: VE1EUR01HT046 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Windows 7 or 8 [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 40.92.66.32 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.23 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:121900 Archived-At: I understand that guns have some rather steep learning curve, but so does E= macs. However both gmail and nowadays outlook/live/hotmail have switched pr= etty much to same model of displaying messages as webforum disscution/conve= rsation. It feels as a quite solid proof of concept to me, so it might be w= orth investment to learn few new shortcuts and use built in guns. I use it myself for gmail and live as imap client and works fine. Did requi= red some hair pulling to initially configure until I got it, but it works q= uite fine, just like any other client, with bonus of no additional software= needed. I don't use 3rd party clients like notmuch or similar to download mail eith= er, I just do with guns. I understand it is exact contrary of what you ask for, so feel free to igno= re my opinion, I just ment to give you a second thought about guns since it= is already in Emacs and thus convenient to use. Best regards /a Skickat fr=E5n min Samsung Galaxy-smartphone. -------- Originalmeddelande -------- Fr=E5n: Jean Louis Datum: 2019-11-27 08:54 (GMT+01:00) Till: "M.R.P. zensky" Kopia: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org =C4mne: Re: Best Emacs Mail client. * M.R.P. zensky [2019-10-29 23:06]: > Hello I wondering what the best mail client is for me to use. I do > not want to use gnus. I just want a really good mail client that can > handle pop and map. Can Rmail support POP and Imap? Should I look > elsware? Well... I also wonder about that. For me, so far, the best way to handle large amounts of emails is using emacs-libvterm module https://github.com/jixiuf/emacs-libvterm and mutt email client under the libvterm within emacs. http://www.mutt.org I am using Maildirs, for which Emacs does not have support, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maildir In my setup every conversation is saved to the ~/Maildir folder correspoding to the email, like ~/Maildir/user@example.com then I can quickly open up previous conversation with the user. Rmail reads from rmail/mbox file. Not from IMAP. POP you should not even use, change your provider if you are offered POP. Use always secure connections to IMAP. movemail software can move from IMAP to local folder. movemail utility you may find in GNU Mailutils, being better than the movemail bundled with the Emacs, see http://www.mailutils.org/ it works like charm, and it is GNU. It can do some serious magic in handling emails. My fcrontab entry is: @ 5 /home/data1/protected/bin/rcd/move-mail.lisp which is outside script that runs movemail for few IMAP boxes, and moves mail to local ~/Maildir but you could adapt it to move mail to local mbox file. Then you could read it with Rmail, which is quite good in handling emails, but not reliable for me, as I am accessing emails sometimes with multiple instances of mutt or other tools. There are other packages for email handling in Emacs, you could look in list of packages, like Wonderlust and MH-E which is I think built in package. MH-E is better than Rmail in my opinion, it has good features and handling of emails, see info for: mh-e Yet those I cannot use, as I am using Maildir format, for me, mutt is great solution, and it is running within Emacs frame. Jean