From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hallvard B Furuseth Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Why have "shell" when there's "term" Date: 06 Jun 2003 16:32:02 +0200 Organization: University of Oslo, Norway Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1054910327 23684 80.91.224.249 (6 Jun 2003 14:38:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 14:38:47 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 06 16:38:45 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19OIL8-0005zv-00 for ; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 16:37:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19OIJn-0000AR-Cw for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2003 10:35:47 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed1.e.nsc.no!nsc.no!nextra.com!uio.no!nntp.uio.no!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 16 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: bombur.uio.no Original-X-Trace: readme.uio.no 1054909922 1287 129.240.186.42 (6 Jun 2003 14:32:02 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@uio.no Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 14:32:02 +0000 (UTC) Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:114222 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:10716 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:10716 J Krugman wrote: > It seems to me that "M-x term" is in every way superior to "M-x > shell". What's the point of the latter? I just tried M-x term and didn't like it. Normal Emacs keystrokes were no longer available, so I couldn't e.g. copy text and yank it elsewhere the same way as before. The Info mode says C-c C-k turns on line mode which makes it more like M-x shell, but that seems to have been overstating the case. I'll stay with M-x shell. That's still basically Emacs, unlike M-x term which tries not to be. -- Hallvard