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From: goncholden <goncholden@protonmail.com>
To: Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: no to war in Ukraine
Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2022 14:02:15 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <FsOoML89dIlg4ypASmyQE7zfX2rQL_4fTGzThrlEyGG6EUya5PWBAqlPh511kJZompp9SUPEpYiOo5kwjMVsLOT1fz08uNjLPLVd64KjFi0=@protonmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878rttvmtt.fsf@mat.ucm.es>

------- Original Message -------
On Wednesday, March 2nd, 2022 at 1:12 AM, Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> wrote:
> > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.
> > ------- Original Message -------
> > On Wednesday, March 2nd, 2022 at 12:37 AM, Uwe Brauer oub@mat.ucm.es wrote:

> > Many russians I know simply go on with their business without angering
> > the state. Like many of us here not wanting to anger our employers.
> > Putin just organised it to a disastrous result.

> Yes, I can only imagine and I also know that for me it is very easy
> sitting 4000 km away from the problem and making comments.

Am not criticising you.  Just stating how things are.  One can make comments
and have all the good intentions in the world.  I just find westerners naive.
As is saying that peace will be established in exchange for conceding some
territories - also naive.  Ukraine held a third of nuclear weapons and many
bombers - and gave them all up thinking that such actions would ensure its
future security.

Nations that sacrifice their nuclear deterrents in exchange for promises of
international goodwill are often signing their own death warrants. In a world
bristling with weapons with the potential to end human civilization, nonproliferation
itself is a morally worthwhile and even necessary goal. But the experience of
countries that actually have disarmed is likely to lead more of them to conclude
otherwise in future.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-03-01 14:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 142+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-26 12:31 phantom invasion and ghostly resistance Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-26 14:36 ` Jean Louis
2022-02-27  8:57   ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-26 23:57 ` no to war in Ukraine Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-27  0:02   ` Jacob Hrbek
2022-02-27  0:17     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-27  0:18       ` Jacob Hrbek
2022-02-27  0:24         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-27  0:59           ` Po Lu
2022-02-27  8:46         ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-28  9:17       ` butterfly effect Jean Louis
2022-03-01  9:47       ` no to war in Ukraine Uwe Brauer
2022-03-01 10:35         ` goncholden
2022-03-01 10:45           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-03-01 11:00             ` goncholden
2022-03-01 12:37               ` Uwe Brauer
2022-03-01 13:09                 ` goncholden
2022-03-01 13:12                   ` Uwe Brauer
2022-03-01 13:35                     ` goncholden
2022-03-01 14:02                     ` goncholden [this message]
2022-03-01 14:34                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-03-01 14:52                         ` Jacob Hrbek
2022-03-01 15:29                           ` goncholden
2022-03-01 15:52                             ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-03-01 16:11                               ` goncholden
2022-03-01 14:05                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-03-01 13:59               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-03-01 13:02             ` Jean Louis
2022-03-01 14:08               ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2022-03-01 10:41         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-03-01 13:05           ` Jean Louis
2022-03-01 14:10             ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2022-03-01 17:09             ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2022-03-01 12:59         ` Jean Louis
2022-03-01 17:39           ` Uwe Brauer
2022-03-02  1:19             ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2022-03-06  1:03               ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
     [not found]             ` <Yh+0Yr6xR78m2oCI@protected.localdomain>
     [not found]               ` <87bkykh9gp.fsf@mat.ucm.es>
2022-03-06  9:49                 ` Jean Louis
2022-03-06 14:09                   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                     ` <87cziz80qo.fsf@mat.ucm.es>
2022-03-07 15:35                       ` Jean Louis
2022-03-08 18:12                         ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2022-03-08 20:11                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-08 20:21                             ` Tom Davey
2022-02-27  1:10     ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-02-27  1:27       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-27  8:48       ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27 11:18       ` Jacob Hrbek
2022-02-27 11:35         ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 11:45         ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27 12:02           ` Jacob Hrbek
2022-02-27 13:51           ` Jean Louis
2022-02-28 12:01             ` Max Brieiev
2022-02-28 12:31               ` Jean Louis
2022-02-28 14:58                 ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-28 16:59                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-02-28 15:22                 ` why conflict [Was: Re: no to war in Ukraine] Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-28 16:27                   ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2022-03-01 14:28                     ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2022-03-01 22:44                       ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2022-03-02  1:08                       ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2022-03-01  6:01                   ` Jean Louis
2022-03-01  8:43                     ` Max Brieiev
2022-03-01  9:52                       ` Jean Louis
2022-03-01 15:19                         ` Max Brieiev
     [not found]                     ` <12751820.zrU1mtMFnZ@galex-713.eu>
2022-03-01  9:24                       ` Jean Louis
2022-03-01 16:22                         ` War is bad " dick
2022-03-01 17:05                     ` why conflict " Alfred M. Szmidt
2022-02-28 14:42             ` no to war in Ukraine Alexandre Garreau
2022-03-01  7:27               ` Jean Louis
2022-03-01 14:34                 ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27 18:31         ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-02-27 18:40           ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-28  9:23           ` Jean Louis
2022-02-28  9:22         ` Jean Louis
2022-02-28 12:12         ` Yuri Khan
2022-02-28 12:17           ` Jacob Hrbek
2022-02-28 13:08             ` Jean Louis
2022-02-28 12:43           ` Jean Louis
2022-02-28  9:19       ` Jean Louis
2022-02-28 13:22         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-28 13:45           ` Samuel Banya
2022-02-28 14:26           ` Jean Louis
2022-02-28 14:47             ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2022-03-01  9:16               ` Jean Louis
2022-02-28  9:16     ` Jean Louis
2022-02-28 11:46       ` Jacob Hrbek
2022-02-28 12:15         ` Po Lu
2022-02-28 13:34           ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2022-02-28 15:29             ` Max Brieiev
2022-02-28 18:05               ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2022-03-01  9:34                 ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2022-02-28 12:42         ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-28 13:35           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-28 14:44             ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-28 14:49               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-28 13:50         ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-28 15:10           ` Jacob Hrbek
2022-02-28 15:39             ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-03-01  4:24           ` Richard Stallman
2022-03-01  9:22             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-03-01 10:06               ` Po Lu
2022-03-01 14:05                 ` Emanuel Berg via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2022-03-01  4:24           ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-27  7:49   ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27  8:05     ` Po Lu
2022-02-27  8:39       ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27  8:58         ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27  9:23           ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27  8:53       ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27  9:51         ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 11:19           ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27 11:44             ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 10:12         ` Po Lu
2022-02-27 10:22           ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 10:25             ` Po Lu
2022-02-27 11:15               ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 11:31                 ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27 11:54                   ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 11:48                 ` Po Lu
2022-02-27 11:53                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-27 12:00                     ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 12:06                   ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 12:14                   ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27 10:52             ` tomas
2022-02-27 11:24               ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 11:27               ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27 11:24             ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27 11:48               ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 11:54                 ` Po Lu
2022-02-27 12:13                 ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27 11:22           ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-28  9:26         ` Jean Louis
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-02-27  3:25 emacsq
2022-02-27  8:09 ` goncholden
2022-02-27  8:51 ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-28 15:26   ` emacsq via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-28 15:30     ` emacsq via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-03-01 17:13 Humberto Freitas
2022-03-01 17:11 ` goncholden
2022-03-01 19:33 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-03-01 19:54   ` goncholden
2022-03-01 20:05     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor

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