From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#11457: 24.1.50; incompatible removal of apropos user options Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 16:22:34 -0700 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1336778645 20572 80.91.229.3 (11 May 2012 23:24:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 23:24:05 +0000 (UTC) To: 11457@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 12 01:24:05 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SSzBr-0004iO-JJ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 May 2012 01:24:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56724 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SSzBq-0003HN-IB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Fri, 11 May 2012 18:22:39 -0500 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.217.132) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 11 May 2012 16:22:39 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac0vzPGQ1CL5vUT5SB+ATWx0W3WNDg== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:59951 Archived-At: So now you've removed the user options for the apropos faces, `apropos-symbol-face' and so on. With the single exception of `apropos-match-face' (why the exception? why not give it an apropos face, which has as its default attributes those of the face `match'?). However, you made this change in a way that disrespects users. There is no deprecation. Starting immediately, you no longer respect a user's customizations of these options that you've removed. E.g., instead of temporarily using, say, (if (boundp 'apropos-symbol-face) ; Deprecated in 24.1, to be apropos-symbol-face ; desupported in 24.3 'apropos-symbol) You immediately use only the face symbol `apropos-symbol'. While I'm in favor of using faces instead of face options (variables), there is a right way and a wrong way to go about such a change. The way you've done it, you invalidate existing user customizations. Not a big deal, but not the best in user friendliness. At least you mentioned the change in the NEWS - that's good. Better would have been to deprecate but not immediately desupport the user options. In GNU Emacs 24.1.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2012-05-06 on MARVIN Bzr revision: 108144 cyd@gnu.org-20120507053738-5ovifsb71cmamn2f Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 Configured using: `configure --with-gcc (4.6) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/src -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libpng-dev_1.4.3-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/zlib-dev_1.2.5-2/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/tiff-3.8.2-1/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-3.0.9/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libiconv-1.13.1-1-dev/include -ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libxml2-2.7.8/include/libxml2'