From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Subject: RE: Customize buttons that change user'scustomfileshouldaskforconfirmation
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 10:20:23 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <FDELKNEBLPKKDCEBEJCBMEAECMAA.drew.adams@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1CzNzx-0004R1C@rattlesnake.com>
The key is to satisfy both novices and experts....
Provide a good default interface for novices and also a way for
that novice to become an expert without too much trouble....
That is why Customize should not only do its job, but make
it easy for a person to learn.
I don't agree with some of the detailed proposals you've made - for example,
I agree with Kim that your history-of-values display would be overkill and
confusing.
However, I do agree that Customize should do these things, in order of
priority:
1. "Do its job", as you put it:
- make it easy for anyone, including a non-Lisper, to customize options
- provide an easy-to-use options browser
2. Facilitate learning more about Emacs - Lisp, in particular.
#1 is far more important than #2. #2 should never interfere with #1. In
particular, the UI should not be made more complex in order to promote #2.
But Customize should not act as an obstacle to understanding what's under
the hood - it should facilitate that learning, but not require it or impose
it. Your analogy with menu items that show corresponding key sequences is a
good one. Simple information bridges like that help users be more effective.
As I mentioned long ago, I think that simple links in Customize to a) the
current Lisp value of an option and b) the defining source code, as are
available in `C-h v', would be unobtrusive and quite helpful.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-02-12 18:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-02-10 17:25 Customize buttons that change user'scustomfileshouldaskforconfirmation Robert J. Chassell
2005-02-10 18:25 ` David Kastrup
2005-02-10 19:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-02-10 22:49 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-02-10 21:39 ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-10 23:45 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-02-11 0:54 ` David Kastrup
2005-02-12 8:38 ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-12 18:20 ` Drew Adams [this message]
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2005-02-12 18:04 Customize buttons that change user's customfileshouldaskforconfirmation Drew Adams
2005-02-12 18:45 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-12 21:01 ` Customize buttons that change user'scustomfileshouldaskforconfirmation Lennart Borgman
2005-02-12 21:21 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-12 21:28 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-12 21:42 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-14 2:07 ` Drew Adams
2005-02-14 2:21 ` Drew Adams
2005-02-14 3:32 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-02-09 20:31 Customize buttons that change user's customfileshouldaskforconfirmation Robert J. Chassell
2005-02-09 21:27 ` Customize buttons that change user'scustomfileshouldaskforconfirmation Drew Adams
2005-02-10 14:42 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-02-10 15:20 ` Kim F. Storm
2005-02-07 7:34 Customize buttons that change user's customfileshouldaskforconfirmation Drew Adams
2005-02-07 17:28 ` Customize buttons that change user'scustomfileshouldaskforconfirmation Drew Adams
2005-02-07 20:23 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-02-07 20:26 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-02-08 11:46 ` Richard Stallman
2005-02-07 5:32 Customize buttons that change user's custom fileshouldaskforconfirmation Drew Adams
2005-02-07 7:25 ` Customize buttons that change user's customfileshouldaskforconfirmation Lennart Borgman
2005-02-07 13:45 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-02-07 16:46 ` Customize buttons that change user'scustomfileshouldaskforconfirmation Lennart Borgman
2005-02-07 14:15 ` Customize buttons that change user's customfileshouldaskforconfirmation Robert J. Chassell
2005-02-07 16:23 ` Customize buttons that change user'scustomfileshouldaskforconfirmation Lennart Borgman
2005-02-07 20:22 ` Robert J. Chassell
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