From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: not too happy with Emacs 21 vertical-line dragging when scrollbars present Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 14:46:44 -0700 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <20041004213703.GE2219@fencepost> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1096926494 20088 80.91.229.6 (4 Oct 2004 21:48:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 21:48:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 04 23:47:58 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CEagY-00031K-00 for ; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 23:47:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CEan9-0005gI-Nr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 17:54:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CEan1-0005g8-71 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 17:54:39 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CEamz-0005fl-C9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 17:54:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CEamz-0005fi-8I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 17:54:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [148.87.2.204] (helo=inet-mail4.oracle.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1CEafU-00051I-8D; Mon, 04 Oct 2004 17:46:52 -0400 Original-Received: from rgmgw1.us.oracle.com (rgmgw1.us.oracle.com [138.1.191.10]) by inet-mail4.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.4/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id i94LfNjm020485; Mon, 4 Oct 2004 14:41:25 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from rgmgw1.us.oracle.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rgmgw1.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.4/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id i94LkjJ4002466; Mon, 4 Oct 2004 15:46:45 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap (dradams-lap.us.oracle.com [130.35.177.126]) by rgmgw1.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.4/Switch-3.1.0) with SMTP id i94LkjGq002456; Mon, 4 Oct 2004 15:46:45 -0600 Original-To: "Miles Bader" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <20041004213703.GE2219@fencepost> Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:27903 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:27903 The idea is to have something that visually indicates what this small spot is for. Are you suggesting a different glyph (fine) or none at all? Or what? Let see ... something that no one can see has rarely been used... Can you say "self-fulfilling retro-prophecy"? Reminds me of when a former Gaullist French foreign minister said, of independendists in New Caledonia, "Ever since we stopped listening to them, we haven't heard a word from them." Works every time... - Drew -----Original Message----- From: Miles Bader [mailto:miles@gnu.org] > Also, is it straightforward to use something like the drag-handle mouse > pointer as the glyph for those two mode-line characters? Suggestions > appreciated. I think that would be a bit too visually aggressive -- it's a rarely used function, so it shouldn't be something that constantly draws one's eye.