From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Getting more info on a variable in Customize buffers Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 09:57:05 -0800 Message-ID: References: <200501031720.j03HKmg11251@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1104775128 18104 80.91.229.6 (3 Jan 2005 17:58:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 17:58:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bob@rattlesnake.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 03 18:58:38 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ClWTW-0001qF-00 for ; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 18:58:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1ClWeg-0005n5-0O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 13:10:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1ClWeQ-0005ml-J5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 13:09:55 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1ClWeP-0005mF-Hg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 13:09:53 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1ClWeP-0005lu-DD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 13:09:53 -0500 Original-Received: from [141.146.126.230] (helo=agminet03.oracle.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1ClWSG-00043r-TD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Jan 2005 12:57:21 -0500 Original-Received: from agminet03.oracle.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agminet03.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.4/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id j03HvBJu032325; Mon, 3 Jan 2005 09:57:11 -0800 Original-Received: from rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com (rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com [138.1.191.50]) by agminet03.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.4/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id j03HvAIM032292; Mon, 3 Jan 2005 09:57:10 -0800 Original-Received: from rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.4/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id j03Hv9UL014389; Mon, 3 Jan 2005 10:57:09 -0700 Original-Received: from dradamslap (dradams-lap.us.oracle.com [130.35.177.126]) by rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.4/Switch-3.1.0) with SMTP id j03Hv52U014370 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 3 Jan 2005 10:57:08 -0700 Original-To: "Luc Teirlinck" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-reply-to: <200501031720.j03HKmg11251@raven.dms.auburn.edu> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:31746 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:31746 2. More useful than just seeing the installed value would be an action to _reset_ the variable to the installed value. Clicking on "State" and choosing "Erase Customization" does exactly that. Great. Then the only value I can see in showing the installed value is to let you know what you'll get if you Erase Customization. That could be done by showing the new value and asking for confirmation when you click Erase Customization. And, since Erase Customization only applies to the current variable, it should be called something like Reset Value, or Reset to Installed Value. The current name can give the impression that it erases all customization.