From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Customize buttons that change user's custom file shouldaskforconfirmation Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 10:01:52 -0800 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1107367552 2577 80.91.229.2 (2 Feb 2005 18:05:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 18:05:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: abraham@dina.kvl.dk, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 02 19:05:51 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CwOrX-0001cd-WE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Feb 2005 19:04:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CwP4i-00054i-6W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Feb 2005 13:18:00 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1CwP3f-0004ll-LB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Feb 2005 13:16:55 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1CwP3b-0004jZ-Bl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Feb 2005 13:16:52 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CwP3b-0004iv-4Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Feb 2005 13:16:51 -0500 Original-Received: from [141.146.126.230] (helo=agminet03.oracle.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1CwOpC-0001m8-IW; Wed, 02 Feb 2005 13:01:58 -0500 Original-Received: from agminet03.oracle.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agminet03.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.4/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id j12I1tfx031728; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 10:01:55 -0800 Original-Received: from rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com (rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com [138.1.191.50]) by agminet03.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.4/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id j12I1sJF031681; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 10:01:54 -0800 Original-Received: from rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.4/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id j12I1rgM006138; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 11:01:53 -0700 Original-Received: from dradamslap (dradams-lap.us.oracle.com [130.35.177.126]) by rgmsgw301.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.1.4/Switch-3.1.0) with SMTP id j12I1qFX006129 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 2 Feb 2005 11:01:52 -0700 Original-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:32762 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:32762 It would be good to have two different terms for the two different kinds of default value, so that we don't have to describe the context each time. One is the standard value for a user option (variable or face), where "standard" essentially means defined by defcustom or defface (IIUC). The other is the value a variable has in a buffer if there is no buffer-local value (setq-default). The former is called "standard". The latter is called "default". I found a couple of places in cus-edit.el that said "default" when they meant "standard", but the distinction was mostly maintained. Right. Good. So, to come back to the name of the button, can we agree on "Standard Values"?