From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Colascione Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 09:57:30 -0400 Message-ID: References: <7133BE83-064B-43A4-A193-61376605222C@dancol.org> <055E6E92-6971-409E-A106-7E0C64FEF856@dancol.org> <87bk3r22x5.fsf@yahoo.com> <746FE961-37C5-4387-8274-7D90908EE2D6@dancol.org> <8734p3219c.fsf@yahoo.com> <867cefeo1w.fsf@gnu.org> <8734p03e94.fsf@jeremybryant.net> <867cec9ccl.fsf@gnu.org> <86jzib96yp.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38150"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android Cc: jb@jeremybryant.net, luangruo@yahoo.com, acm@muc.de, stefankangas@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 26 15:58:32 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sMTAM-0009V5-28 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 15:58:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sMT9m-0000SY-L0; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 09:57:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sMT9j-0000SE-BS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 09:57:51 -0400 Original-Received: from dancol.org ([2600:3c01:e000:3d8::1]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sMT9T-0002Cs-OQ; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 09:57:50 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dancol.org; s=x; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: References:In-Reply-To:Subject:CC:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=w2ZnhWRJtirvR+M4Wvq3F07s8wur4UGjTz4mmWL3lMI=; b=eC/VfW3uhrXVm22+3hwUGhSMC/ h+uMrMTZY/h2E/sRjS9/MNfLBRgk+9ogr7rRjoeiC13ykmc/G94YEsfKc8LMHwNNfkf65pmP9IS47 aBuYwi0zzUdrCXeKTtPfASMbDD7O5XUnVtDfFlSoaasSfjmP/gt1U+GXzpgapiY4c1puBjsDFEhcw Mps3P2Cxo88em+q6UyAsQBeBdR1QvW6l+KTxQ8pYPfQuOmLvKLutdJpCPLRYAnLUdGv/8l6SknNZB RB3Yx3RTLJROuXVmXnmodFr067iXHGAILg7R6DztKLkI7LkdXL7o7G+RLqaTWpXNcpU7lirhDtRyQ ohliDgUQ==; Original-Received: from 2603-9001-4203-1ab2-3cec-3bc2-2295-1139.inf6.spectrum.com ([2603:9001:4203:1ab2:3cec:3bc2:2295:1139]:51772 helo=[IPv6:::1]) by dancol.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1sMT9Q-00027I-Im; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 09:57:32 -0400 In-Reply-To: <86jzib96yp.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2600:3c01:e000:3d8::1; envelope-from=dancol@dancol.org; helo=dancol.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SPF_HELO_TEMPERROR=0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:320690 Archived-At: On June 26, 2024 9:19:58 AM EDT, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 07:44:19 -0400 >> From: Daniel Colascione >> CC: luangruo@yahoo=2Ecom, acm@muc=2Ede, stefankangas@gmail=2Ecom, >> monnier@iro=2Eumontreal=2Eca, emacs-devel@gnu=2Eorg >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On June 26, 2024 7:23:38 AM EDT, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> >I still hope that someone will tell what is exactly the request here, >> >given that windmove-mode is on by default and its commands are >> >autoloaded=2E >>=20 >> To be clear, my proposal is to bind C-x 4 in the default global= keymap to the corresponding directional windmove commands and to bind the = shifted versions of these keys to the state swapping versions of these move= ment commands=2E IOW, in emacs -Q, C-x 4 LEFT should move left=2E > >Thanks, but how should we do that without breaking >windmove-default-keybindings for those users who use it? =2E=2E=2E by not touching windmove-default-keybindings, except perhaps to = mark it obsolete? Adding bindings to the default keymap does not interfere = in any way with what windmove-default-keybindings does=2E