From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Reitter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs 23 Mac port Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 17:28:25 -0400 Message-ID: References: <2282B3B4-D844-4E26-BB94-9F79EEA2E847@gmail.com> <458792C0-4FA1-4F95-8D83-9807A1A57B43@gmail.com> Reply-To: Emacs-Devel devel NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1078) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1275859723 24610 80.91.229.12 (6 Jun 2010 21:28:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:28:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: John Higgins Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 06 23:28:42 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLNOY-0003BQ-K2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 23:28:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37330 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OLNOX-0000t3-L1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 17:28:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=60979 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OLNOR-0000s1-OZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 17:28:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLNOQ-0005kP-Qi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 17:28:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-vw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.212.41]:49995) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OLNOQ-0005kF-MI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 17:28:30 -0400 Original-Received: by vws13 with SMTP id 13so4794502vws.0 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 14:28:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:mime-version :content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:reply-to :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=lZFaprn02TQAtBv9yyxA7T5TKdUTuIHK9XGjdHBvmwI=; b=haGJd7RwT5fz9FlcigCwGof9cOnjty5Ipz9TcRYBjtC8Cb3NBVMhhgzAZjDq0/XqF2 wb/ui5kaxOKTGiV/khv3oCr8terumM7afwNP/7V82487t+j5PORJDqqm9eqkY0RSPpm/ kCwIIgM+9lNmZnWQwN9V/4B1nFxkFw3x20jIc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:reply-to :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=SRgXQp1d5WG1tFhA9NwpBMQ6w38KG5lfWsYnA4VbFiMyFmSRVCI8zL8EeMo1wKFXGi GX8/4JhWmQ6Sq4Eg8uyIuEvTN2odZ8+RHZ2/b0iZkWOF3TFvVg9zC3svl492kR3l6ZR6 8Eae0s29wF4JeYwEVSphU02T9UDF31xLAJAD4= Original-Received: by 10.224.93.203 with SMTP id w11mr7121484qam.335.1275859708821; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 14:28:28 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.16] (pool-74-104-46-109.bstnma.east.verizon.net [74.104.46.109]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm6376581qwk.18.2010.06.06.14.28.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 06 Jun 2010 14:28:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1078) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:125562 Archived-At: On Jun 6, 2010, at 2:48 PM, John Higgins wrote: >=20 > Carbon is 32bit only and deprecated, the Mac port Nobody said anything to the contrary. > uses Cocoa and it can be compiled as 64bit executable. I see a lot of Carbon in there, unlike in the NS port. >=20 > It also is very stable, has frequent updates with lots of activity, It's great to see people like it. This underscores my argument, namely = that we should make sure the official NS port benefits from it. > If it wasn't for Mitsuharu's hard work and dedication, there would be > no 23.x Emacs for me and a lot of others on osx. Absolutely. Again, I'm keen to see some of this work integrated. That said, I'm not sure I would talk badly about the NS port. Aquamacs 2.0 currently contributes about 2,500 very regular users of the = NS port (in its Aquamacs form running on a Mac, that is). If they = weren't happy, they wouldn't be using it.=20 I don't know how many people use the pure NS port.=