From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Re: Org Tutorials need more structure Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 19:48:05 +0200 Message-ID: References: <52470E63.7000101@wilkesley.net> <20130928194342.04f94d5f@aga-netbook> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_6554096A-7BAA-488C-9EC4-92BC91B1FF29"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34530) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VPycj-0006lg-73 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 13:48:13 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VPyce-000356-L2 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 13:48:09 -0400 Received: from mail-wi0-x231.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::231]:42230) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VPyce-00034x-DL for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 13:48:04 -0400 Received: by mail-wi0-f177.google.com with SMTP id cb5so2136808wib.16 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 10:48:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130928194342.04f94d5f@aga-netbook> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Marcin Borkowski Cc: ian@manor-farm.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --Apple-Mail=_6554096A-7BAA-488C-9EC4-92BC91B1FF29 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On 28.9.2013, at 19:43, Marcin Borkowski wrote: > Dnia 2013-09-28, o godz. 18:14:11 > Ian Barton napisa=C5=82(a): >=20 >> On 28/09/13 07:11, Carsten Dominik wrote: >>=20 >>>=20 >>> Can we have a discussion here on how this path should look like? >>> When you came to Org-mode as a newby, what were the three resources >>> that really made an impression on by being accessible and >>> providing feel and promise for digging deeper? >>>=20 >>> - Carsten >>>=20 >>=20 >> I think we need to try and identify why most new users come to >> org-mode. This might give a better idea of how to re-organize things. >>=20 >> I am guessing that initially many users are attracted by the task=20 >> management and outlining features. =46rom these basic features flow >> things such as publishing, clocking, Babel. So maybe listing >> Tutorials in this order would be a start. >>=20 >> Personally if I am learning something new I want a broad overview of >> the main features, with links to places where I can find more detail. >>=20 >> For example David O'Toole's and Sacha's tutorials cover this very >> well. The videos are an excellent resource, but require the user to >> set aside 30-60mins in one block of time. People are more likely to >> watch them if their initial interest has been piqued by something >> they can read and digest in small blocks. >=20 > Hear, hear. >=20 > What I would love to see is a 4-5 minutes video "trailer", showing = most > prominent features of Org-mode, with cool music, effects etc. - like > movie trailers. >=20 > :) Yes, I'd love that too. High quality, show effects but don't explain = key bindings. :) - Carsten >=20 >>=20 >> Ian. >>=20 >>=20 >=20 > Best, >=20 > --=20 > Marcin Borkowski > http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski > Adam Mickiewicz University >=20 --Apple-Mail=_6554096A-7BAA-488C-9EC4-92BC91B1FF29 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSRxZVAAoJEO+gg/nAZuwMr6EIAJq18pPqJCQblqnZ5XJmaCCl TwhVP+kTD1U+I3E5oDtDLz9DWgHvmssuLxP/rrOUufOIN/C/rZPXGjVC0bsuNwai PYZefL5qAbnv+OjJfz2KZtzZLnUIw1GK/rXl2HPz3ImIAinyfPXhUjyrRbm840F3 42HOffhqMcjhxO0shnKMceTx3Z02c0RMcAjriL7iguxxuXv2D1A088FH9qg3mnWn nhgT0X/RLun0AMwvoKvECKNpKuna2SuVN+cC6jJx3kLP3JoD9Vg1Pb3q/Py6N3Hs tfsYTFZEo9+YqeC714GlCM1Y5/p/gkdqMCyY2bqv60bKkTV3sFPvXXXwYRvd+1I= =aSkC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_6554096A-7BAA-488C-9EC4-92BC91B1FF29--