From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Dyballa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: File name completion on Mac OS X with German umlauts Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:14:54 +0100 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1205273759 4131 80.91.229.12 (11 Mar 2008 22:15:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:15:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Markus Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 11 23:16:23 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JZClL-0000pJ-Nl for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:16:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JZCkn-000589-7w for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:15:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JZCkS-000571-RO for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:15:05 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JZCkN-00052n-OM for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:15:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JZCkN-00052Z-Cc for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:14:59 -0400 Original-Received: from fmmailgate03.web.de ([217.72.192.234]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JZCkM-0004AI-QH for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:14:59 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp05.web.de (fmsmtp05.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.4.166]) by fmmailgate03.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 040FED2682D0; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:14:57 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from [195.4.205.100] (helo=[192.168.1.2]) by smtp05.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (WEB.DE 4.109 #226) id 1JZCkK-0006Dj-00; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:14:56 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) X-Sender: Peter_Dyballa@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1900ynmyFfS7fvvTF/mFdwSb0+v/xAELGfYMg4O ITiPKTdHEOoCl3SjwiUJ+vpkWQzQeR2JUnt7ZQfvPbrloJzHNX jBS142AQtIxqFtKdvoaQ== X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:52270 Archived-At: Am 11.03.2008 um 22:24 schrieb Markus: > But I'm out of here and won't investigate any further. I just deal =20 > with it until it will be hopefully fixed one day or find some =20 > alternative ... but is there an alternative to Emacs??? ;-)) There might be two: Emacs.app, based on GNU Emacs 23.0.60, the =20 Unicode Emacs, and GNU Emacs 23.0.60 as X client. Both can be =20 compiled from source. Leopard, Mac OS X 10.5, offers an up-to-date X server at least =E2=80=93 = and =20 it must be based on X11R7.x, probably X11R7.2. X11 can have a real =20 process environment that is inherited from the X server. Emacs.app (http://emacs-app.sourceforge.net/) does not use Carbon, =20 but Cocoa. It's still unfinished, it has no SVG support. There is a =20 problem with preview-mode in AUCTeX. It does neither use htmlize-view =20= nor mac-print for printing. Real =CE=B1! In the next few months its code will be integrated into CVS HEAD, =20 i.e. the code of GNU Emacs 23.0.60, the development version of stable =20= GNU Emacs. Since GNU Emacs 23.0.x does not support Carbon builds, =20 it's likely that Emacs.app will become the native Mac OS X Emacs. =20 Some Carbon Emacs developers are already working on code Emacs.app =20 can use. -- Mit friedvollen Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fen Pete Some day we may discover how to make magnets that can point in any =20 direction.