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From: chad <yandros@MIT.EDU>
To: rms@gnu.org, "emacs-devel@gnu.org Development" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Bootstrap deleted DOC-nnn file
Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 15:33:00 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <F9334A53-FDCE-40E6-ACFC-A2146966917C@mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1UavUB-0006kC-D5@fencepost.gnu.org>


On 10 May 2013, at 15:08, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:

>    But "make bootstrap" also deletes all the emacs-nnn executables,
>    doesn't it?  If so, there's no point in keeping their DOC files.
> 
> Yes there is.  I had a job running, and it could not get its DOC file.
> 
> However, it is a bad thing to delete the old executables too.
> It is sometimes useful to compare behavior of the new version
> with the old version.  There is no need to delete them,
> so let the user decide.

I used to run into this minor issue frequently when building
development versions of emacs for MIT's campus computer system.
Over time, the build trees would collect a bunch of DOC files, but
it was pretty easy to clean up, and since we were intentionally on
the bleeding edge, keeping multiple versions was occasionally useful.

There is a big problem with that approach, though: only the executable
and the DOC files are versioned. The elisp libraries would immediately
out of sync, and since most of the changes are to lisp files, the
old binary+DOC was of very limited usefulness.

As an aside, these days I follow emacs dev on a macosx system (using
the ns port; the mac port doesn't have this functionality) that
uses a relocatable install, so the entirety of emacs lives inside
a single emacs-only directory tree (Emacs.app). This makes multiple
versions very easy to manage, and I keep at least two independent
emacsen around at all times. It's saved me more than once.

I hope that helps,
~Chad




  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-10 22:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-10  0:22 Bootstrap deleted DOC-nnn file Richard Stallman
2013-05-10  9:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-10 11:02   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-05-10 12:51     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-10 17:01       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-05-10 17:19         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-11  2:46           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-05-10 22:08   ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-10 22:33     ` chad [this message]
2013-05-11  3:09       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-05-11 12:10         ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-11 16:49           ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-11 17:16             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-11 21:44               ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-11 22:14                 ` Christopher Schmidt
2013-05-12 19:39                   ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-12  3:00                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-12 19:39                   ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-12 20:00                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-13 14:09                     ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-13 16:27                       ` Andreas Schwab
2013-05-14 13:32                         ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-14 16:32                           ` Paul Eggert
2013-05-15 11:43                             ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-15 12:22                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-15 13:24                                 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-05-15 23:27                                 ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-15 19:08                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-05-15 22:37                                 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-05-14 16:54                           ` Andreas Schwab
2013-05-15 11:43                             ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-15 12:20                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-15 23:27                                 ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-13 16:30                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-12  2:45             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-05-12 15:33               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-12 19:39               ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-12 19:39               ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-12 23:32                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-05-13 23:47                   ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-14  1:24                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-05-12 19:39               ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-12 23:04                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-05-11  7:13       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-11 12:10         ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-11 12:58           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-11 14:50             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-05-11 16:49               ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-11 17:37                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-05-11 21:44                   ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-13 15:15                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-05-13 23:47                       ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-14  1:56                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-05-14  6:29                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-05-14 12:48                             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-05-15  0:05                           ` Richard Stallman
2013-05-11 16:49             ` Richard Stallman

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