From: David Reitter <david.reitter@gmail.com>
To: Alp Aker <alptekin.aker@gmail.com>
Cc: "Jan Djärv" <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>,
"Dimitri Fontaine" <dim@tapoueh.org>,
"YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu" <mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp>,
"emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Emacs 23 Mac port
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 08:59:53 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <F8D55EFD-3F8B-46BA-AED6-82F0F90B3854@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACxch4qeHOvYF5UR+6L6P9S2kiOam7HuK1UYUzR+2prkyW+_og@mail.gmail.com>
On Aug 7, 2011, at 8:08 PM, Alp Aker wrote:
>
> The easy way to do fullscreen uses Cocoa methods that are only available for
> 10.6 or later (I'm assuming you're referring to the use of the "setStyleMask"
> method for NSWindow). It seems a little premature to give up on support for
> 10.4 and 10.5, not to mention giving up on GNUstep.
In the month of July, 15% of Aquamacs users were still on 10.5, and now 10.7 has come out.
However, if you only look at people who have recently (within the past two years or) have upgraded their installation to one based on Emacs 23 (from Emacs 22), this figure drops to 9%. Among the users of the latest version of Aquamacs at the time, it's 7%.
Given that Emacs has very limited resources in terms of OS X developers, this suggests to me that supporting certain features only on newer OS variants is warranted; dropping support completely for 10.5 is probably a little early.
The GNUStep argument may be a stronger one from an ideological standpoint.
> So if a fullscreen mode
> were to implemented in GNU Emacs, it it probably worth it for the time being
> to use a strategy like that "typester" patch that's been floating around, as
> that doesn't have any version dependencies.
As I've said before, feel free to take the Aquamacs code (which is based on typester's patch, combined with support for the standard frame parameters) and turn it into an Emacs patch. Let me know if I can answer any questions. (Y. Mitsuharu's 10.7 code sounds great, perhaps it can be used or reimplemented for Cocoa.)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-08-08 12:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 156+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-02-20 11:02 Carbon: resizing a frame on wrong "space" David Reitter
2008-02-21 1:13 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-02-28 20:26 ` Harald Maier
2008-02-29 0:15 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-02-29 2:40 ` William Xu
2008-02-29 3:02 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-02-29 3:10 ` William Xu
2008-02-29 3:18 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-02-29 4:55 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-02-29 8:36 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-03-02 4:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-09-07 3:46 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-11-27 11:37 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-01-26 4:48 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-03-27 0:28 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-05-13 3:25 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-06-27 5:58 ` Emacs 22 Carbon+AppKit port (was Re: Carbon: resizing a frame on wrong "space") YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-08-03 2:55 ` Emacs 22 Carbon+AppKit port YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-08-07 20:41 ` CHENG Gao
2009-08-29 0:48 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-08-31 17:38 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2009-09-01 5:40 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-09-05 2:18 ` Emacs 22 Carbon+AppKit port and Emacs 23 Mac port YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-09-05 7:47 ` CHENG Gao
2009-09-05 8:56 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-09-05 11:27 ` CHENG Gao
2009-09-05 12:15 ` David Reitter
2009-09-05 12:42 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-09-05 14:35 ` CHENG Gao
2009-09-05 17:28 ` David Reitter
2009-09-08 18:45 ` David Reitter
2009-09-08 16:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-09 0:26 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-09-05 8:03 ` CHENG Gao
2009-09-08 10:38 ` CHENG Gao
2009-09-09 1:04 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-09-10 10:16 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-09-11 18:11 ` CHENG Gao
2009-09-27 4:23 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-11-01 4:47 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-12-09 22:08 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2009-12-31 11:46 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-01-02 1:27 ` Leo
2010-01-02 4:21 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-01-02 10:19 ` Leo
2010-01-02 15:26 ` Leo
2010-01-02 20:56 ` Leo
2010-01-03 2:45 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-01-03 11:07 ` Leo
2010-01-12 8:16 ` Jan Djärv
2010-01-12 9:03 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-01-12 9:28 ` Jan Djärv
2010-01-12 10:18 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-01-03 11:07 ` bug#5295: 23.1.91; special-event-map bug Leo
2010-01-12 10:19 ` bug#5295: marked as done (23.1.91; special-event-map bug) Emacs bug Tracking System
2010-01-12 14:15 ` Emacs 23 Mac port Stefan Monnier
2010-01-12 17:21 ` Jan Djärv
2010-01-12 21:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-13 7:39 ` Jan D.
2010-01-13 14:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-12 23:35 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-01-13 7:43 ` Jan D.
2010-01-04 2:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-30 4:42 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-02-27 9:19 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-04-03 2:26 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-04-03 14:55 ` Leo
2010-04-03 16:07 ` Leo
2010-04-04 5:36 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-04-06 13:09 ` Leo
2010-04-20 9:08 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-04-20 13:07 ` Leo
2010-04-28 8:57 ` Leo
2010-04-30 1:21 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-05-04 2:35 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-05-04 3:10 ` Leo
2010-05-05 1:09 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-05-05 15:58 ` David Reitter
2010-05-06 1:04 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-05-06 16:34 ` covici
2010-05-07 0:33 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-05-06 17:31 ` David Reitter
2010-06-06 18:48 ` John Higgins
2010-06-06 21:28 ` David Reitter
2010-06-07 0:53 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-06-11 21:27 ` Daniel Colascione
2010-11-16 1:25 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-11-16 14:11 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-11-17 13:44 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-11-17 14:57 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-11-17 17:00 ` David Reitter
2010-05-09 4:45 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-05-29 8:14 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-06-26 3:51 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-31 5:23 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-07-31 11:36 ` covici
2010-08-05 19:15 ` David Reitter
2010-09-27 8:38 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-09-27 9:24 ` Leo
2010-11-10 8:50 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-11-14 21:47 ` Daniel Colascione
2010-11-15 1:48 ` Leo
2010-11-15 1:52 ` covici
2010-11-15 7:03 ` Chad Brown
2010-11-15 15:23 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-11-17 21:49 ` ken manheimer
2010-11-18 14:35 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-12-01 3:34 ` Leo
2010-12-01 10:43 ` Leo
2010-12-02 10:01 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-12-02 14:52 ` Leo
2010-12-03 4:41 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-12-03 6:34 ` Leo
2010-12-12 4:41 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-01-15 10:35 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-02-01 9:40 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-02-15 8:04 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-03-10 6:29 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-07-23 3:28 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-07-26 11:07 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-08-06 5:55 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-08-06 11:48 ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-08-06 13:00 ` Jan Djärv
2011-08-08 0:08 ` Alp Aker
2011-08-08 3:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-08-08 4:45 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-08-08 9:48 ` Jan Djärv
2011-08-08 13:02 ` David Reitter
2011-08-08 16:14 ` Jan Djärv
2011-08-08 12:59 ` David Reitter [this message]
2011-08-12 16:57 ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-08-27 0:52 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-09-01 0:42 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-10-02 12:30 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-10-06 19:08 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-10-07 0:27 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-10-07 10:25 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-10-17 1:29 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-10-27 2:46 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-11-28 10:45 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-11-28 12:06 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-11-29 18:51 ` Jan Djärv
2011-11-28 14:58 ` Xu Xin
2012-01-15 6:07 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-01-15 17:29 ` Xu Xin
2012-01-31 6:52 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-01-31 15:57 ` Xu Xin
2012-01-31 19:01 ` John Wiegley
2010-03-13 0:16 ` Emacs 22 Carbon+AppKit port and " YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2010-03-15 18:12 ` Giovanni Lanzani
2010-03-16 0:23 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-01-16 11:32 emacs user
2012-01-16 13:01 ` Leo
2012-01-17 0:49 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-01-17 3:47 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-01-17 10:51 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
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