From: Jean-Christophe Helary <fusion@mx6.tiki.ne.jp>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: A system for localizing documentation strings
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 00:49:15 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <F8B083A3-A95E-4DE6-A8BD-76EFBA56F148@mx6.tiki.ne.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46A8C099.6060401@gnu.org>
On 27 juil. 07, at 00:41, Jason Rumney wrote:
> Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:
>> I think I understand. But you have to consider that as soon as we
>> provide a localization framework we offer the possibility to have
>> something else but English as the default.
>
> I think it is a bad idea to mix default languages. The default will be
> used as a fallback, so it should be English where possible, as that is
> the most widely understood language in the world today.
Obviously English will be the default for English speaking
communities, Portuguese for Portuguese speaking communities.
Besides, English is not the most widely understood language in the
world today. And maybe emacs-dev is not the right place to make such
assumptions anyway. Obviously we have a very strong English speaking
community here...
> If a developer does not speak English, they could use Portuguese
> for the
> doc strings originally, but as soon as English translations are
> available, they should become the default, and the Portuguese moved
> out
> to whatever translation format we end up with.
Obviously this is a fundamental mistake in the design as I wrote
earlier: if Portuguese developers want to modify the code they
originally wrote they'd need to refer to a different file to find
their original comments.
Also, a Lebanese developer who reads French would rather have French
as the default than any dialect of English.
Either localization is agnostic (ie it considers all languages
technically equal) or it is flawed.
Jean-Christophe Helary
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-26 15:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-26 1:05 A system for localizing documentation strings Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-26 3:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-26 3:29 ` Fwd: " Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-26 11:54 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-07-26 13:28 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-27 0:30 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-07-27 1:18 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-26 12:13 ` Fwd: " Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-26 13:51 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-26 14:50 ` Jason Rumney
2007-07-26 15:27 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-26 15:41 ` Jason Rumney
2007-07-26 15:49 ` Jean-Christophe Helary [this message]
2007-07-26 16:15 ` Jason Rumney
2007-07-26 16:25 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-26 16:28 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-26 16:44 ` Jason Rumney
2007-07-27 5:04 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-27 7:22 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-27 7:49 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-27 7:52 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-27 11:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-27 12:07 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-07-27 12:26 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-27 12:53 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-07-27 14:43 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-28 14:11 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-27 16:03 ` Henrik Enberg
2007-07-27 14:09 ` Werner LEMBERG
2007-07-27 18:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-27 11:37 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-28 14:11 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-26 15:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-26 15:42 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-26 16:03 ` Jason Rumney
2007-07-26 16:23 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-27 5:04 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-26 19:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-26 19:54 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-26 15:36 ` Fwd: " Andreas Schwab
2007-07-26 19:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <871weuk228.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>
2007-07-27 9:53 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-07-27 11:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-27 11:43 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-07-27 11:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-27 12:17 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-07-27 18:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-27 14:56 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-27 15:18 ` Jason Rumney
2007-07-27 15:28 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-27 15:59 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-27 16:09 ` Fwd: " Jason Rumney
2007-07-27 17:53 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-28 3:13 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-27 16:14 ` Fwd: " David Kastrup
2007-07-27 16:55 ` Jason Rumney
2007-07-27 12:27 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-07-27 15:00 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-27 11:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-27 11:45 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-07-27 12:18 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-07-27 12:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-27 16:24 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-27 2:16 ` Summary (Re: A system for localizing documentation strings) Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-27 5:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-07-27 7:24 ` David Reitter
2007-07-27 7:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-07-27 8:03 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-27 8:18 ` Jason Rumney
2007-07-27 9:04 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-27 9:22 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-27 9:39 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-27 9:46 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-27 11:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-27 15:11 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-27 11:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-27 14:52 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-27 12:13 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-27 15:16 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-27 15:55 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-27 8:21 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-27 9:08 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-27 9:33 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-27 9:38 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-27 11:05 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-27 11:19 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-07-27 11:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-28 14:11 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-27 11:08 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-07-27 11:15 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-27 11:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-27 11:59 ` Jason Rumney
2007-07-27 13:13 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-27 13:42 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-27 14:12 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-28 14:11 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-28 22:49 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-27 15:07 ` Jan Djärv
2007-07-27 15:41 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-27 16:11 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-07-28 2:57 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-28 14:11 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-27 16:24 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-28 2:53 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-29 2:22 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-29 4:46 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-29 16:55 ` M Jared Finder
2007-07-30 0:57 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-30 16:43 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-30 17:04 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-31 3:38 ` Richard Stallman
2007-07-31 4:16 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-31 6:05 ` Jan Djärv
2007-08-02 0:32 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-08-02 23:43 ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-01 18:11 ` Davis Herring
2007-08-02 0:25 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-08-02 5:47 ` Miles Bader
2007-07-27 5:04 ` Fwd: A system for localizing documentation strings Richard Stallman
2007-07-27 8:29 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
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