From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#7555: 24.0.50; (elisp) bad organization - Frames submenus Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 10:24:47 -0800 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1291488333 26028 80.91.229.12 (4 Dec 2010 18:45:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 18:45:33 +0000 (UTC) To: 7555@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 04 19:45:29 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1POx6r-0005Xc-KY for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 19:45:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41318 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1POx6r-0005JP-5V for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Sat, 04 Dec 2010 10:24:45 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcuT4Igu4EbDJq8+T7eEZe9oZ498PQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2010 13:21:02 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:42150 Archived-At: All kinds of stuff has been stuffed under the `Frames' node - stuff that has nothing particular to do with frames. This stuff should be placed elsewhere. Examples: Mouse Tracking - maybe put it with other mouse stuff Mouse Position - " " Pop-Up Menus - put it with other menu stuff It has nothing to do with frames, apart from the fact that the implementation might involve frames. Dialog Boxes - maybe put it with menu or `interactive' stuff Again, it has nothing to do with frames apart from implementation. Pointer Shape - put it with other mouse stuff Window System Selections - put it with selection/region stuff Drag and Drop - put it with copy/paste stuff Color Names - again, has nothing to do with frames Text Terminal Colors - ditto Resources - resources can be anything, not just frame parameters Display Feature Testing - similar to resources - this is about display/system properties, not about Emacs frames This is a terrible mess. It confuses users wrt what Emacs frames are all about. You might just as well stuff all this stuff in the section about Emacs faces or the region - that makes about as much sense (none). In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2010-11-30 on 3249CTO Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.4) --no-opt --cflags -Ic:/imagesupport/include'