From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
To: Detlef Steuer <detlef.steuer@gmx.de>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [export] Should sidewaystable option automatically add rotating package?
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 06:49:07 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <F7BEDFBC-96F7-40D1-B8D4-BA2E1374A9A6@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130913100125.257db23d@vknecht-intel.unibw-hamburg.de>
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On 13.9.2013, at 10:01, Detlef Steuer <detlef.steuer@gmx.de> wrote:
> Hi!
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us> writes:
>>
>>> So the question is should it be a default package?
>>>
>>> I think not. E.g. tabu isn't loaded. Amsmath isn't loaded if you
>>> generate a matrix.
>>
>> I think the "tabu" case (and longtable...) is different from "rotating".
>>
>> No feature in Org requires "tabu" or "longtable" unless user explicitly
>> writes "tabu" or "longtable" somewhere in the buffer (i.e.
>> in :environment attribute).
>>
>> On the other hand, "rotating" or "wrapfig" may be needed without the
>> user knowing about it (e.g. when setting :float or :wrap attributes).
>>
>> Therefore, I think "wrapfig" and "rotating" belong to the same boat.
>> Either we require them both in default packages, or we do not require
>> any and add a footnote about it in the manual. I have no preference.
>>
>
> I think it is more consistent to provide these packages automagically.
>
> There seems no downside besides slightly longer latex startup times.
> Org already loads some default packages to perform its export magic.
> Why not try to be "feature" complete in the sense Nicloas describes:
> User doesn't try something special with latex, but uses
> commands/options provided by org, so a bare bone export can be expected
> work.
>
> Personally I would appreciate it very much if org followed the
> principle of least surprise in these cases, as these surprises tend to
> show up, if time is running out ;-)
OK, let me ask like this:
Does anyone know about conflicts arising from loading wrapfig and rotating?
- Carsten
>
> Just my two user cents.
>
> Detlef
>
>
>> On the same line, we could remove "longtable" from
>> `org-latex-default-packages-alist', if only to spare a few kittens.
>>
>> WDYT?
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> --
>> Nicolas Goaziou
>>
>>
>
>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-09-15 4:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-09-11 11:05 [export] Should sidewaystable option automatically add rotating package? Eric S Fraga
2013-09-11 12:01 ` Rasmus
2013-09-11 12:08 ` Eric S Fraga
2013-09-11 12:14 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-11 12:25 ` Rasmus
2013-09-11 15:24 ` Eric S Fraga
2013-09-11 12:30 ` Rainer M Krug
2013-09-12 17:42 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-12 18:33 ` Rasmus
2013-09-12 19:00 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-09-13 8:49 ` Sebastien Vauban
2013-09-12 19:22 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-13 8:01 ` Detlef Steuer
2013-09-15 4:49 ` Carsten Dominik [this message]
2013-09-15 14:02 ` Nicolas Girard
2013-09-16 8:08 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-16 10:47 ` Rasmus
2013-09-16 11:26 ` Rainer M Krug
2013-09-16 13:27 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-16 13:38 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-16 19:26 ` Rasmus
2013-09-16 20:21 ` Andreas Leha
2013-09-17 1:45 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2013-09-17 4:48 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-17 13:24 ` Rasmus
2013-09-18 13:18 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-18 22:21 ` Rasmus
2013-09-19 2:04 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-19 9:11 ` Rasmus
2013-09-19 9:28 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-19 9:38 ` Nicolas Girard
2013-09-19 11:05 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-25 7:04 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-25 7:45 ` Nicolas Girard
2013-09-25 7:50 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-25 9:09 ` Rasmus
2013-09-26 8:51 ` Marcin Borkowski
2013-09-17 13:30 ` Rasmus
2013-09-17 5:11 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-17 8:05 ` Eric S Fraga
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